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Rumors Flying About New iPhone Capabilities

Jumping on the completely unconfirmed rumor bandwagon, it seems that there have been photos leaked for the new iPhone, which include things like an auto-focus camera, video capture, and a compass. The photos were originally displayed (and then quickly removed) on a Chinese forum, and quickly spread to many other sites, including a complete human translation on the MacRumors forum. Looks like Apple security may have to break a few more pocket protectors to keep employees in line.

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  1. You mean the G1? by CritterNYC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "things like an auto-focus camera, video capture, and a compass"

    You mean they're gonna release a G1?

    1. Re:You mean the G1? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except the UI is going to NOT look like a 3 year old designed it.

    2. Re:You mean the G1? by CritterNYC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'll give up the shiny UI for the ability to install any app I want and a hardware keyboard.

    3. Re:You mean the G1? by undef · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have an HTC Pro with ATT. The hardware itself is cool.

      However, Windows Mobile is frustratingly slow, disorganized and unreliable.

      Press a softkey and you can get GUI feedback that the button was pressed without the OS or app actually taking that action. That's bad enough, but when button presses can take 1 or 2 seconds to execute because of all the bloated WM overhead, then you don't know if you need to press the button again or wait.

      If you do press it again and WM was just lagging, then you get two presses. Nice design feature.

      WM is designed first as a Microsoft platform, then as a phone. The phone features integration on WM on the HTC Pro is terrible. The phone screens are miserably organized for quick / easy use. The contacts features have inconsistent use of buttons and softkeys. The dial and phone buttons change meaning. Even the volume functions are poorly designed for quick changes. The Touchflow GUI that was poorly integrated on top of WM is pretty - pretty useless. After one or two superfluous menu levels, you end up in the original balky WM GUI, which is what they were trying to cover up anyway.

      I haven't loaded any extra apps on it that might destabilize it, but I have to reboot it at least once a week.

      Yeah, the HTC Pro with WM is wonderful. <gag>

    4. Re:You mean the G1? by mdwh2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Only on an Apple article would an ad hominem get +5 insightful.

      Care to explain why the UI is better than all other phones, using evidence, reasoning, and objective examples, as opposed to ad hominems, vague subjective claims, or the "But You Just Have To Use It" claims that we typically get? Or will my honest question just be hidden by the mods so the reasonable questions don't even have to be answered?

    5. Re:You mean the G1? by mdwh2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i can tell you sugar is sweet. if you ask me what sweet is, will you be equally adamant in accepting my answer, "but i cannot objectively explain that - you just have to taste it!" ? Is that too vaguely subjective for you? sometimes just experiencing it is the only way (or at least, the best way) to understand something. particularly an experience, such as usage of a UI.

      So I see you adopted for the "vague subjective claims" option. I'm not sure what your argument is - things such as sweetness can be objectively defined and measured. But even if it couldn't, it would be a fallacy to claim that because we can't define sweetness, we therefore can't define a good UI. Moreover, even if we accept that a good UI is purely subjective, then you've lost, because whether the Iphone is good or not is purely a personal opinion, and no longer a fact, and people who claim other phones have the best UI are just as correct as you are.

      Honestly, this sounds like a theist's "But atheists believe in love!" claim in order to justify their claim of "God exists" - except it's "Sugar is sweet" in order to justify "The Iphone has the best UI".

      look at the iPhone ads

      I would prefer to be told here, rather than subject myself to even more Apple marketing (what with the emails they spam me with, and the daily Slashdot stories)...

      Like the one where you want to find a sushi place - it will give you directions, reviews and a phone number to call and make a reservation - all within an extremely simple UI where you don't have to hunt for the info one by one.

      At last, an example, thank you. Sounds like Google maps. Although to be honest, I think this is more of an "application features", rather than user interface - unless you can explain something about that interface that makes it better than the same applications in other phones. And "feature lists" are often hand-waved away by Iphone fans as not being important. But still, this is the sort of thing I do like to hear more about - useful applications on a range of phones - so thank you for the example.

      i sincerely wish you could shed your unreasonable antipathy towards actually trying to use the iPhone UI, so you can be a better judge of it yourself.

      "But You Just Have To Use It". Sorry, I haven't used the Iphone. There are loads of phones I haven't used - I bet the same is true for you too. You suggest that not spending thousands of pounds on every phone is "unreasonable antipathy"? If you're going to claim the Iphone is the best, without having used all other phones yourself, then you'd better be able to justify that, rather than expecting us to use your phone.

    6. Re:You mean the G1? by recharged95 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just trying cupcake and honestly, once you use a keyboard, you'll never go back to a virtual keyboard. Never.

  2. Chances are.. by Finallyjoined!!! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apple themselves leaked the pictures, after all they are the masters of "media" manipulation.

    After all's said & done; it's just made the front page of /. :-)

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    1. Re:Chances are.. by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why the hell would Apple leak it when it can just as easily make the front page of Slashdot next week when they show off the new features at WWDC. More than likely this is mostly crap designed to drive up page hits for some goon's blog or third rate website. Apple has no real reason to release this information before they actually want to do so.

      Hell, I could easily go grab some crap digital camera and take a picture with it that looks slightly better than a current generation iPhone and then watch as the traffic comes flying in my direction. Add a few other blurry shots of what looks like an iPhone and I've all but ensured the legion of fans and fanatics will turn my web server into pile of ash from all the traffic.

      Slashdot probably only decided to link to the story for the same reason everyone else is doing it: It's going to get a large number of people to click on the link and drive up the stats for advertisement purposes.

    2. Re:Chances are.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why the hell would Apple leak it when it can just as easily make the front page of Slashdot next week when they show off the new features at WWDC.

      Two words: Palm Pre. I doubt apple is highly worried about it, but man it makes people think twice about getting one if iPhone 3.0 is THIS close.

  3. Re:Whatever comes out... by tomservo291 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Symbian and Android have 60% of the smartphone market? What? Where?

  4. Re:Whatever comes out... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... it will be less than capable of the respective Nokia N-device but as always the Apple marketing and fanboyz

    There have always been products competing with both the iPod and iPhone that have a longer and more impressive bullet list of features. The problem being, the average person doesn't enjoy using them and half those features are so poorly implemented they are just painful to use. Many geeks are happy to work around poorly designed interfaces for the sake of overall functionality.

    Is Apple becoming the Microsoft of the mobile world?!

    The problem with Microsoft is that they use a very large market share in one market to destroy competition and innovation in other markets, thus slowing progress. Apple doesn't have dominance in any markets, so their locked down products drive innovation by providing real competition. When Apple has a monopoly o near monopoly and ties to other markets, then "ll lump them in with Microsoft.

    I don't know... but I'm telling you something guys: this is 2009 and we have Symbian & Android which together reach some 60% of the mobile smartphone market...

    Yup, that's very cool and I have high hopes for Android, which have not really panned out yet. I still wonder if Android would exist or if it would have the level of functionality it does if Apple were not providing such strong competition.

    So let's not pull are eyes out with our own hands and choose iPhone NOT.

    For many people the iPhone is still the best offering. Since we're not dealing with a significantly broken market for smartphones, people should pick what works best for them, be it iPhone or an Android or some other phone. This drives developers to work hard and try to make better products. I don't see the point of picking a product that is not as well suited to my tasks based upon the underlying OS. All that does is provide incentive for developers of that OS to not work harder to meet my needs and not compete as strongly. (Note: I don't own any kind of smartphone, iPhone or other.)

  5. Re:Whatever comes out... by david_thornley · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are, as is usual here, missing the point about Apple products.

    They frequently don't have the raw capabilities of their competition, but they are reasonably stylish and very easy to use. You and I may be able to efficiently handle complicated interfaces, but most people have a great deal of difficulty with them. They will learn what they have to, and no more. The average smart phone is used only for a very few things.

    The iPhone is easy to use. It's easy to figure out how to do things. There are darn few glitches or gotchas. There's a fairly thick manual, which nobody has to read. This is important, since nobody but us actually reads the manuals. It's easy to extend the functionality, now that the App Store is there. It has never been easier to make a telephone generate its own fart sounds, or do a variety of other things, some of which are actually useful. I find this attractive, since I've long since tired of learning complicated things that aren't actually important to what I want to do. (For example, why would I want to learn Microsoft Word's more arcane features when vim and LaTeX already do what I want?)

    If this makes no sense to you, or if you think Apple's popularity is due to nothing but marketing and fanbois, please do not do any interface design for end users.

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  6. Verizon? by the-matt-mobile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being available for Verizon is the only iPhone feature I'm looking for. No chance I'm going with AT&T - period. Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way, or maybe the lure of the iPhone is enough for other people to make the switch. Meh.

  7. dashboard looks like it is in a western car by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do cars shipped to China have trip, km and other english words on the dash instead of the equivalent Chinese? The reasons for the fuzzy photos don't wash as the photographer brandished the phone in public in a car. Seems to me better photos could have been taken easily.

  8. It is Mr Gadget who got it wrong by shuying · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mr Gadget attempted to be smart. Unfortunately the screenshots show an iPhone with compass and autofocus features which are not possible on an iPhone 3G.

  9. Re:I'm confused by EvanED · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More proof /. needs a (-1, wrong) mod.

  10. New Shiny ! by daveime · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The iPhone version 3 is finally getting all the stuff that other cellphones have had for 10 years ? And people will still blindly pay through the nose for these "exclusive features" ?

    Not sure about the compass though, I'd have preferred a pair of nail clippers, a corkscrew / bottle opener, and a pair of scissors ... wait, we're talking about a Swiss Army Knife right ?

    We can only hope that the iPhone version 4 will at least upgrade the camera to 1.3 megapix.

    *ducks*

  11. Awesome new features by metamatic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know what would be awesome new features?

    The ability to run whatever software I want, and the ability to operate on whatever phone network I want.

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  12. Re:Whatever comes out... by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > Both Symbian and Android can do what iPhone does and even more.

    And vice versa. The intersection is not the universal set.

    > And developers can leverage the WHOLE underlying technology.

    You don't know the same developers I do then.

    > So the iPhone Store story is only a stupid buzz.

    And 37 million installed base. It's the platform, stupid.

    > I'm afraid of what will happen if Apple somehow prevails and becomes the Microsoft of the mobile OS market.

    Why? Their stranglehold on the music player market seems like it's improved the entire market. Do you remember the suckage that people used to sell before the iPod got rolling?!

    Maury

  13. New Features (remeber the iPod?) by DorkRawk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're right, Apple should have probably learned their lesson about taking their time and getting features correct rather than trying to have the most features on the block after the whole iPod thing blew up in their faces. "No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame." (2001)

  14. Re:GPS attitude by centuren · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, actually it is true. You just need multiple antennas in a known orientation.

    The claim was that any GPS can compute north, which we know is untrue.

  15. Re:Whatever comes out... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mmmm... Apple's dominance includes not only portable music devices (iPods)

    I don't think this will stand up legally due to the numbers you cite not including music playing cell phones, which make up a significant portion of the market. This, of course, depends upon how the market is distinguished.

    ...but the actual distribution of music (iTunes)

    First, the ITunes store and the iTunes application are in different markets and it is important to distinguish that you're referring to the former not the latter. Second, while Apple may well have dominance in said market, it is a problematic market, since it is already compromised by the illegal actions of a cartel, convicted multiple times of undermining free trade. Personally, I think Apple has had a net positive impact on innovation in the market, but it is so broken already the issue is quite muddled.

    In any case, it's not illegal to have a dominant market position; it's only illegal to use that dominance to stifle competition. Fortunately, Apple hasn't demonstrated any significant tendency to eliminate competition in the markets they do dominate.

    Elimination of competition is not the only issue, simply undermining free competition in a way that artificially increases their share is sufficient to damage free trade. Some of Apple's actions in said markets certainly qualify as tying in the eyes of the law, if they are ruled to have dominance in either of those markets. The issue being, they probably don't in the first market and the second market is so broken any tying is fairly immaterial or even positive. There is a lot of room for debate on it though.