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Nintendo Announces New Mario Bros, Mario Galaxy, Metroid

Nintendo's E3 press conference was an eventful one, with announcements for a new Super Mario Bros. Wii, a sequel to Super Mario Galaxy, and a new entry into the Metroid franchise by Team Ninja. The new Mario Bros. game will be available for the holiday season, and the other two are scheduled for 2010. Nintendo also confirmed an updated version of the Wii Fit, called the Wii Fit Plus (trailer), due out this fall. A full list of Nintendo's announcements is available, which includes more games and new features. Live blogs of the press conference, with commentary and pictures, are up at Engadget and 1Up.

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  1. Also Golden Sun DS by Archaemic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Golden Sun DS (not mentioned in TFS) is really what I'm most excited about. Golden Sun and its sequel for GBA were possibly my favorite RPG series for a long time. What a brilliant mixture of RPG gameplay with puzzle solving it was, with great graphics (for GBA) to boot! I've been waiting for a third for ages, as the second had a somewhat open ending.

    1. Re:Also Golden Sun DS by Lendrick · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nintendo...

      Just when I think you couldn't be any dumber, you go and do something like this...

      AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!

      Wow, and to think I'd pretty much given up on anything good ever coming out for the Wii. Glad to see I was wrong. :)

  2. Nintendo.... by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its nice to see Nintendo actually making an effort to appeal to gamers who want a game more involved than a tech demo, but can we please have something... fresh? Sure, Mario, Metroid, and Golden Sun are good, but it seems like Nintendo has really stagnated in good games that aren't gimmicks. Plus theres a bunch of old IP that isn't being capitalized on such as the old Japanese Fire Emblem games, Earthbound hasn't even seen a US release on the Virtual Console and Kid Icarus hasn't seen a new game in ages.

    Nintendo needs to make more "hardcore" games so whenever they aren't in first place anymore they won't go belly up.

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    1. Re:Nintendo.... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's kind of my feeling. I thought Nintendo did better this year (and Cammie dropped the creepy smile, so that's a win), but I still came away feeling like there was nothing new. It was the same thing we've already tread on the Wii. Where was the Starfox or FZero or Kid Icarus or SOMETHING new and exciting? Even the New Super Mario Bros. Wii reminded me of the multiplayer Mario flash game where players stomp on each other's heads.

      Even the DSi announcements fell flat. Mario and Luigi 3 looked kind of fun, as did the Mario vs. Donkey Kong for DSiWare. Of course, the latter is just the continuing strategy of ripping pieces of old DS games out and putting them up as DSiWare. (At least we got Mighty Flip Champs on Monday.)

      When Nintendo showed the interviews with the kids on the street, I got a kick out of the girl saying she was excited for the new internet features of the DSi. As I expected, Nintendo did nothing with that. I joked with the guys over on DSiCade* that Nintendo should really cut to DSiCade and show our conversation as it was happening. Alas, the poor DSi still got so little love.

      * Disclaimer: I wrote DSiCade.

    2. Re:Nintendo.... by Toonol · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think this upcoming year is a good one, with some serious games. Conduit, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, a new Resident Evil, a new 'mature' action Metroid...

      And Red Steel 2, which I'm anxiously awaiting. Overall, I think all three developers had a good showing this year, but I think Nintendo's was strongest. Not just because of their conference, but because the entire subtext of Sony and Microsoft's presentations was about them trying to copy the Wii's success.

    3. Re:Nintendo.... by Errtu76 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nintendo needs to make more "hardcore" games so whenever they aren't in first place anymore they won't go belly up.

      They first need to release Wii 2 with better specs before 'hardcore' gamers are tempted to buy one. Don't get me wrong, Wii is a superb platform for really innovative games, but Mario Galaxy is already pushing its limits and that's not even _that_ special. The best thing they could do was improve on their succes and release newer versions of their best-selling games.

      I don't know anything about DS so i won't comment on it.

    4. Re:Nintendo.... by MemoryDragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually Nintendo still makes original games, but for some strange kind of reason they seem to drown it themselves.
      Example, last year they released the excellent survival action game Disaster Day of Crisis, what happend.
      Almost zero advertisement, and the release only happend in Japan and Europe.
      Overall the game got very high ratings, it was full of fresh ideas, but it drowned! I guess we never will see a sequel, not because of the game quality but because it did not sell at all!
      (Even the hardcore crowd did not know about it!)

      It is easier to ride the Zelda/Mario train as long as it sells to keep the platform alive.

      Its nice to see Nintendo actually making an effort to appeal to gamers who want a game more involved than a tech demo, but can we please have something... fresh? Sure, Mario, Metroid, and Golden Sun are good, but it seems like Nintendo has really stagnated in good games that aren't gimmicks. Plus theres a bunch of old IP that isn't being capitalized on such as the old Japanese Fire Emblem games, Earthbound hasn't even seen a US release on the Virtual Console and Kid Icarus hasn't seen a new game in ages.

      Nintendo needs to make more "hardcore" games so whenever they aren't in first place anymore they won't go belly up.

    5. Re:Nintendo.... by BenoitRen · · Score: 5, Informative

      the original PlayStation was the most powerful console of its generation

      Nonsense.

      • The Sega Saturn was, in some respects, more powerful. It actually had a two-processor architecture, but that was hard to program for.
      • The Nintendo 64 was more powerful. No question about it. Of course, it was hampered by its storage medium.

      PlayStation vs. Nintendo 64:

      • CPU: 33 Mhz vs. 94 Mhz
      • Memory: 2 MB main RAM and 1 MB video RAM vs. a unified memory system of 4 MB RAM

      The PS2 was either on par, or slightly inferior to the original Xbox, I don't know their stats offhand, but it was certainly superior to Sega's DC, and Nintendo's GC.

      What the hell? This is so wrong.

      The Dreamcast had more video RAM than the PS2 and the GameCube, though its CPU wasn't as fast. That being said, never underestimate the effect of more video RAM on a game console.

      The Xbox was much more powerful than the PS2, and the GameCube was more powerful than the PS2, its better shading effects giving it an edge.

      PlayStation 2 vs. GameCube vs. Xbox:

      • CPU: 295 Mhz vs. 485 Mhz vs. 733 Mhz
      • RAM: 32 MB main RAM and 4MB of video RAM vs. 24 MB main RAM and 3MB of video RAM vs. a unified memory system of 64(!) MB RAM

      Were you brainwashed by Sony, or something?

    6. Re:Nintendo.... by BenoitRen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hardcore gamers already have a Wii next to their XBox 360 or PS3.

  3. Re:dangle tags at your own peril by RandomPrecision · · Score: 5, Funny

    This story needs /emphasis

  4. I'm a hypocrite by wilsoniya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As the type of person who despises media companies that crap out products having never-ending sequels (sims, guitar hero), Nintendo really brings out the hypocrite in me, as I feel compelled to always buy the canonical Mario games.

    They had me at at Super Mario World.

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    1. Re:I'm a hypocrite by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The difference is that each Mario game seems to be more than just an expansion pack. Super Mario Bros. was a classic platformer, SMB 2 (US version) was totally different yet still addicting, SMB 2 (Japanese version, Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels for westerners) was somewhat of an expansion pack but really seemed polished (and difficult), SMB3 added so much to the series and video games in general, Super Mario World added TONS of replay value, Super Mario 64 defined 3D platforming, Super Mario Sunshine was an experiment that worked sorta well, but played differently then any other game at the time or since then, Super Mario Galaxy expanded the Mario world a lot. Each new release isn't just new tracks or new powerups its a totally new experience that seems to redefine video gaming as a whole. While the next Guitar Hero just will have new tracks, the new Mario games usually have something unique to offer.

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    2. Re:I'm a hypocrite by atamido · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The thing about these characters is that they are such a valuable piece of property to Nintendo that it pretty much guarantees that they won't risk releasing a crappy game with those characters that would destroy the franchise. Let's face it, Mario's story isn't exactly great, it's Nintendo's dedication and time to developing Mario games that makes him so popular.

  5. Looks good but... by blahplusplus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... nintendo really needs 3rd party games badly. The fact they went with underpowered hardware really killed 3rd party companies ability to port their games to the system. Which means: No final fantasy 13, no Street fighter 4, No soul calibur 4, etc, etc....

    Everytime nintendo learns from it's mistakes, it makes another one. It's also a shame that they fucked up starfox series so badly with Starfox Assault and Starfox adventures (was: Dinosaur planet)

    I heard the starfox developer got in a tiff with Miyamoto on the direction of the starfox franchise and they went their seperate ways... shame, it appears that Miyamoto thinks he's gods gift, and he outrights ignores the fan's of the games themselves. Pretty awful in my opinion.

    It's cool that Nintendo seems to be getting on the ball with Metroid, I hope Team Ninja's metroid is awesome, looks good from the trailers... I wish that they would farm out Zelda to team that does 3D combat well, I wonder what the god of war team could come up with working with Nintendo's own team.

    1. Re:Looks good but... by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ... nintendo really needs 3rd party games badly. The fact they went with underpowered hardware really killed 3rd party companies ability to port their games to the system. Which means: No final fantasy 13, no Street fighter 4, No soul calibur 4, etc, etc....

      Underpowered? Other then for cut scenes/graphics the games really don't *need* the extra power. With the Wii not doing HD it really doesn't need any extra power. What the Wii doesn't have is buttons, if you use the motion controls it ends up not working like all the other consoles, if you don't use the motion controls you get angry reviewers saying how it doesn't use "the full potential" of the Wii. Final Fantasy XIII is meant for hardcore gamers, the Wii just doesn't have that audience, now most hardcore gamers do own a Wii but play most games on the PS3 or 360. As for Street Fighter 4 and Soul Calibur, you kinda need buttons to do all the combos, waving around a Wii Remote doesn't exactly have the same appeal.

      I agree about the third party games though, it seems that due to Nintendo's marketing of the console towards 8 year olds and 40 somethings, they have lost the demographic of good third party game publishers. Either they give you crappy mini game collections, bad licensed titles, crappy ports of old PS2 games or rip-offs of Wii Fit or the other Wii titles. It seems like few developers will actually make a good game on the Wii, Super Smash Bros. Brawl is proof that it is possible. But even for studios who do make an effort, their work is overshadowed by a better game released for a different console, just look at Namco, they released the decent-ish Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World for the Wii, then released the amazing Tales of Vesperia for the 360. They could have done Vesperia for the Wii but Nintendo's marketing kept them away.

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    2. Re:Looks good but... by slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But what Nintendo has done with the Wii is to tap into an alternative market. Why compete with Sony and MS, in a "who can be the best platform for playing gamepad games" competition? Someone has to lose that competition, and it might be you.

      Instead, make something that appeals to the millions of people who want cheap, fun gaming with a gimmicky controller. Turns out it works.

      It'll be interesting to see what happens now that Sony and MS are trying to muscle in on that market. Nintendo have a couple of advantages -- they were there first, and Sony/MS are heavily invested in a 'cool' factor that could be undermined by being too cheerful, brightly coloured and family-oriented. See their more "sophisticated" alternative to Miis, for example.

  6. Still dissapointing. by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sure, everyone loves Mario but at this point it's obvious Nintendo is very stagnant. Most of the stuff on the Wii is pure shovelware garbage, and I've yet to be truly impressed with the uses of the Wiimote (although the device itself is fantastic and I even use it with my computer via bluetooth). The Wii is a stagnant system all-around for the more active gamer, and its "environment" is so sterile (less mature games, using the friend code system, etc) and the system is far enough behind the others in terms of graphical and processing ability to not allow for faithful ports of games on the XBox 360 or PS3.

    You'd think Nintendo would at least ramp up 1st party games but nope. Most of what is coming out is unremarkable shovelware. The DS is definitely starting to lose some of its luster as only a few good games on it seem over the horizon--though I do think the DS was overall a success with many quality games.

    Mario, Mario, and Metriod. And another gimmick, Wii fit. How depressing for us Wii owners.

    As an aside, when is Nintendo going to come out with a faithful quality sequel to Star Fox 64?

    1. Re:Still dissapointing. by Toonol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mario, Mario, and Metriod. And another gimmick, Wii fit. How depressing for us Wii owners.

      If it's that depressing for Wii owners, why do those games SELL SO WELL? Why is Sony and Microsoft intent on copying them?

      I get what you're saying. I want some hardcore action, FPS, RPG, and strategy games. The Wiimote would make a sweet interface for a RTS like Starcraft. But just remember, Wii Fit makes more people more happy than a port of 'Bioshock' would. Just not necessarily you or I.

    2. Re:Still dissapointing. by blind+biker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hope Nintendo doesn't listen to you, for their own good. They did the homework already, about what kind of demographic gets them the more profits, and they nailed the equation. Just because there is one console manufacturer that doesn't cater to your needs, doesn't make their strategy a bad one. You have Sony, Microsoft and a host of PC game developers catering to the likes of you. Surely that's enough?

      I for one find the "hardcore gamer's games" boring and unplayable. I could complain why doesn't Sony bring more fun games to the PS3? Its amazing hardware could make for a great experience for those games, but you don't see me or anyone else complaining to Sony. So you guys play with your crap and we play with ours. We shut the fuck up, so can you.

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  7. And new Wii Zelda by RyoShin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While there's extremely little information outside of "It exists", a new Wii Zelda has been announced. Supposedly more "mature", though that can mean many things to many people.

    All in all, this is a MUCH better showing from Nintendo than last year's "Yay let's flail around faking music!" show. I almost wish they had split what we've see this year between this and 2008 E3s, so that we might see more of each thing.

    Personally, I'm more excited for Golden Sun DS than anything else, though I'm sure to pick of SMG2 and Metroid. Too bad that rumored Metroid: Dread for DS never came about.

  8. I don't get you. by nobodyman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree that the 3rd party situation is abysmal, but I'm scratching my head when you say that they are stagnating. If anything, I'd say they are the only console manufacturer that has truly managed to innovate and break out of traditional "gamer" demographic.

    And then there's this:

    Mario, Mario, and Metriod. And another gimmick, Wii fit. How depressing for us Wii owners.

    As an aside, when is Nintendo going to come out with a faithful quality sequel to Star Fox 64?

    Translation:

    <sequel/>, <sequel/>, and <sequel/>. And another gimmick, Wii fit. How depressing for us Wii owners.

    As an aside, when is Nintendo going to come out with a faithful quality sequel to <sequel/>?

    So you want innovation... except when you don't?

  9. Re:I'll be delicate... by El+Gigante+de+Justic · · Score: 3, Informative

    They point out in the article that it is basically the same graphics as the DS New Super Mario Bros, so yes, you're right, it looks like something from DS (intentionall). I'm sure it's no where near pushing the limits of the Wii hardware, considering what it has been shown to be capable of in games like Resident Evil 4, Super Mario Galaxy and MadWorld.

    The hype is about the 4 person simultaneous multiplayer in a mario game, which is a completely new feature - maybe you should try reading the article instead of just looking at the pictures.

  10. Before Nintendo will even sell you the devkit by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    Plus, the Wii is so much cheaper to develop for.

    Once you have the devkit. But before Nintendo will even sell you the devkit, you must have a corporation or LLC with a leased office and a track record. That's a lot of overhead for a new business. Compare to Xbox Live Community Games: anyone with a PC, a C# book, and $794* can get started.

    * Price of an Xbox 360 plus a 5-year subscription to XNA Creators Club.

  11. I hope they get Wii Fit right. by andi75 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What really breaks Wii Fit is the time spent navigating the menus between exercises.

    What it needs is a way to setup a simple list of exercises in advance (like a songlist in Guitar Hero's quickplay mode), and then run you through those as quickly as possible (don't explain to me how it worked *every time*, thank you), and with as short load times as possible.

    As it is now, you never really break a sweat...

  12. Still waiting to hear... by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A price cut announced for the Wii console. It has been out for almost three years now, and still sells at the price it was initially released at.

    Granted, the console is still selling fine at this same price - and hence demand seems to remain - but this seems like an unusually long time for the components within the system to have not fallen in price.

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