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Hacker Jeff Moss Sworn Into Homeland Security Advisory Council

Wolfgang Kandek writes "Hacker Jeff Moss, founder of computer security conferences DEFCON and Black Hat, has been sworn in as one of the new members of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC) of the DHS. Moss, who goes by the handle 'the Dark Tangent' says he was surprised to be asked to join the council and that he was nominated to bring an 'outside perspective' to its meetings. He said, 'I know there is a new-found emphasis on cybersecurity, and they're looking to diversify the members and to have alternative viewpoints. I think they needed a skeptical outsider's view because that has been missing.'"

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  1. DC = suits = Borg by h00manist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Either he resigns in disgust or becomes assimilated.

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    1. Re:DC = suits = Borg by h00manist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've heard of various friends working in governments of threats, bribes, and turning a blind eye. Having a voice is great of course, and resigning in disgust is proper use of that voice. But to stay inside and really use your voice means either being threatened with being fired (at best), or saying things that you are allowed to, meaning, what was approved, not the full unabridged truth. If they let him in on some scope of attacks that happen all the time, say he is going to be helping, and offer him a salary and future "upgrades", he'll want to say. Perhaps he'll find out something about how the security/surveillance works, or something or other, not agree with it, and wish to denounce it. The choices will be laid out.

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    2. Re:DC = suits = Borg by crush · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Give me a break. It's another talented, unethical scumbag joining up with the even bigger scumbags in government so that they can fuck us over more efficiently. Immunity and privilege for him, surveillance for the rest of us.

  2. Good for the council by Tyrun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is actually a great step forward. Why not have some of the best hackers review our current practices?

  3. Good luck with that, Jeff by Jawn98685 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously. I have no doubt that Jeff has the chops and the "perspective" that has definitely been "missing". I watched the eyes of Richard Clarke and his entourage glaze over at a "town hall" meeting with the "President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board" (or whatever they called it then) in Portland about 8 or 9 years ago, as some very smart security folks told them what was coming and what needed to be done. Honestly, I don't know if they just couldn't grasp the issues or if they were more interested in political play, but the message was quite plain; "the government" was going to be no help in securing things. Political inertia being what it is, I doubt that much as changed, the current administration's well-meaning efforts notwithstanding. Jeff is in for a frustrating ride, I fear.

  4. Re:More change for the US by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, if you stop looking at it as a insult to your team, and more as nothing more than a joke, it was pretty funny. I voted for Obama, and I still thought it was funny as shit.

    But ... lets be realistic here, the jury is still out on intelligent and competent, I've seen nothing in particular so far to make me believe he is truly any different. Its practically impossible to tell this early on how its going to play out, you really don't know his agenda yet, just what you're supposed to think it is.

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  5. Re:More change for the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think the jury is still out on intelligent, at least. He did go to an ivy league school, and his daddy wasn't in politics, or rich. He also didn't just barely scrape by with C's, he graduated with honors. Oh, and then he's written his own books (as opposed to authorizing other people to write them, like most politicians). You could argue that the jury is still out on "different" and even "competent" but I don't think you could seriously make an argument that he isn't intelligent.

  6. Not quite by WilliamBaughman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll take the bait. The phrase "poacher turned gamekeeper" refers to someone who now protects the interests they previously attacked. Jeff Moss never (in public knowledge) attacked the security of the United States. He has exposed weaknesses in various security systems, but that's often considered helpful. It would be more like a naturalist with a BA in Criminal Justice turned gamekeeper.