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Solution For College's Bad Network Policy?
DAMN MY LIFE writes "I'm going to Central Michigan University in the fall. Upon examination of their poorly organized network usage policies, I'm worried that using their internet service will expose my web browsing habits, emails, and most importantly, passwords. Another concern I have is the 'Client Security Agent' that students are required to install and leave on their systems to use the network. Through this application, the IT department scans everyone's computer for what they claim are network security purposes. Of course, scanning a person's hard drive can turn up all kinds of things that are personal. Do all colleges have such extreme measures in place? Is there any way that I can avoid this? There are no wireless broadband providers available in the area, I already checked."
A different college.
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
Just tell them you use Linux, even if you don't. They'll probably be able to add you to a white list.
If they want you to install the client security agent, fine - install it in a VM under VMWare or VirtualBox. Either that, or make sure you have a firewall running and explicitly deny any traffic out from it.
Dude, I don't know what to say, that's insane. The only suggestion I have is to either not use the Internet on your personal computer or find another university to go to. sigh... Looks like along with all the other stuff that determines what school a kid goes to, we're going to have to add "how screwed up is your Internet access policy?" to the list.
Stupid question, what if your machine is a Mac or Linux box? This "Client Security Agent" seems to be a Windows-only beast. Whatever it is, it would be a cold day in hell before I let a university that I'm paying money to dictate that I have to have their software on my machine to use the Internet access that my tuition and fees are paying for!
Looks to me like a clear-cut case of some overzealous IT goob forgotting who is paying whose salary. I'm not saying that you're the Chairman of the Board, but you most certainly should expect to have the right to have full access to this academic resource without this kind of burden.
As a practical matter, you could just call up their IT department and tell them that you have a Linux box, even if you have Windows, and that your machine doesn't run their "Client Security Agent." Whatever they tell you to do to get on the network, just do that on your Windows machine and be done with it. If they tell you that it can't be done, seriously. Go somewhere else. If this university is that stupid, you shouldn't particularly want a diploma from there anyway.
If you do call them up and ask about Macs and Linux machines, let us know what they say.
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When I was at the University of SC in 2004, they required you to install the Cisco Clean Access software which checked to make sure you were running the school provided AV and had all your windows updates among other things. I hated the school AV (mcafee) because it constantly had false positives on items on my computer and would delete without prompting. It gave no option to quarantine, ignore, etc...just delete. I noticed that if you didn't have the Cisco Clean Access software installed and tried to browse, you were given a web portal login for your school network credentials, very similar to the actual Cisco Win32 software. After logging in you were prompted to download the Cisco software via the web portal along with McAfee and whatever else. I noticed in the school policy that Mac's and Linux clients were exempt. I booted OpenSuse, was greeted by the same web portal, but when I logged in, it told me I had a 7 day lease rather than telling me to download the Cisco crap. I went back to XP, downloaded User Agent Switcher for Firefox and faked my user agent to linux when logging into the web portal. It told me I had a 7 day lease and I was able to switch back my default FF user agent until I was prompted to login 7 days later. User Agent Switcher lets you save presets in a menu so switching is easy. I don't know if your school is setup the same way but you might want to try it. I was really surprised that with all the money and manpower that my school put into implementing all these policies that it was defeated by a first year student with a simple Firefox extension. Good luck, I really do feel your pain.
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From the first link:
"If you use our network, we own what's on your hard drives. Thanks!"
I'm one of the evil characters involved with running a college campus network. Let me assure you that I couldn't give a rat's ass about what files you have or what's in your email or anything about you, really. All I care about is keeping the network free enough from malware that it can still function. It's always a matter of playing the percentages - if more than about 5% of the machines on the net are infected and misbehaving, the resulting traffic makes the network become essentially unusable for everyone. Students scream. Faculty scream. Then the university president screams at me.
So all I want is to make sure *enough* people are clean. If you're clever enough, you can get around the restrictions. But there aren't *that* many clever people, and those people usually aren't getting infected with stuff anyway, so I don't care about the outliers.
You're not a person to me. You're a data point. Don't be an interesting one and we'll all get along just fine.
You're at college. Get involved. Stop referring to IT/IS as "them" and instead make it "us". Participate with the student computer club, or the professional IT/IS department, and then you'll have a voice in campus policies, and after you pick up some credibility, you'll get the access you need to do your own stuff.
This is the point of being at college, after all.
My college doesn't require us to install anything to access the network. Of course that's mainly for two reasons: 1. If you're going to Harvey Mudd, you probably have mastered the basics and possibly several of the upper reaches of computer and internet security and those who haven't usually learn fast from their peers that do. 2. Honor Code. This is actually one of the basic tenets of Mudd, not just of computer usage, and it basically means "Use common sense and when that fails report yourself." It sounds crazy I know. You'd think it'd cause a breakdown of justice and total anarchy because no one would obey the rules which might very well happen on many larger campuses. But when you consider the kind of people that attend Mudd and its small size, it actually works darn well. Hell, it's worked for over 50 years and Mudd still turns out incredibly bright students either in spite of or because of the Honor Code depending on your view point. People actually do report themselves when they cause problems and there is a student run judiciary board for those who don't which runs quite efficiently. All in all, the policy causes less stress and anxiety for both the administration and the students than invasive strategies like the one described in the article.
Look, I'm a fan of net freedom just like you. But let's be honest here. It is the university's network, even if you are semi-footing the bill, and they get to decide network policy rules. It's mostly for prevention, if their students are constantly getting DMCA notices, the university might get into trouble. So of course they block limewire, not like it has a legitimate use anyways. If there's a massive outbreak of viruses on their network, their tech supports (people like me) have to clean up, so of course we force students to have up to date antivirus software, and up to date operating systems, its the method of prevention available.
.exe's, or simple .bat scripts would bypass the network policies.
Simply put, their network, their rules. When you're paying, you can decide the rules you follow, and deal with the consequences if you break some other major rules (laws). If you don't like their rules, complain to them, or go elsewhere. Not like you're forced to stay. Attempting to side-step the rules (especially publicly on slashdot, you know someone in the IT department at your university reads this site) is a very bad plan. Unless if you happen to be a random genius at network security (and if you're asking us, you aren't), you will not outsmart your school's IT department. This isn't high school anymore, where renaming forbidden
You seem to be confused. You are paying the school money for the ability to attend their classes. You are paying the school for the ability to use their network.
In no way do you have merit to dictate those terms. If you don't like it, then don't attend or try to convince them to change those terms. Either way, "Adults" should understand this is a contract, and you have very little negotiating power.
But again, it is my machine, and it is my money that is paying for that Internet connection. Accessing it is not a privilege that the university has graciously given to me for free, it is a paid-for service, and you'd better have a damn good reason for taking my money and then denying it to me. "You might get infected or break copyright law" is not a valid excuse.
Dude, your money only pays for a very small part of the school's network. Do you think they should let you piss in the university president's office because it is your penis, and it is your money that pays for that office? These measures are designed to prevent the school from getting sued and to prevent network users from spreading viruses to other users. It is their network, and they can require you to meet some basic security requirements if you want to use the network.
So? I don't care if it makes your dorm room smell like a fresh spring breeze. If I don't want it, then you have no right to demand that I have it.
Actually...they do. Most Universities (like the one I work for) have an acceptable use policy. Agreement to the acceptable use policy is part of the school giving you permission to use THEIR network resources. You may have paid tuition, but the school's network does not belong to you. It belongs to the school, and if the school's policy says that you have to have a screensaver featuring fluffy bunnies in order to access their network then tough shit if you don't like fluffy bunnies.
If you were a private company, then maybe I can understand, it's your network, you have the right to set the rules.
Ok.
Even if you're a private university, though, I most certainly do not understand, because again, MY tuition and fees pay for that network, and Internet access is pretty much required to complete just about any degree these days. Deny it, and you might as well tell a student that he can't have any textbooks.
If you don't like it they can admit someone else.
Not to mention that it sounds like you've fallen into the same trap that the RIAA/MPAA has fallen into. "Because some people use Limewire for illegal purposes, since you have it installed, you must be using it for illegal purposes." Sorry bub, but the whole "guilty until proven innocent" thing doesn't fly very well with me.
I do agree with you here. At the university I'm at we don't do the "guilty until proven innocent" thing. We got a little more proactive and setup a layer 7 firewall on our network that blocks all P2P traffic. Of course there are ways around it via VPNs and proxies, but the installation of that firewall resulted in about a 60% reduction in our network resources and an overall speed increase for the entire campus (we have about 3000 employees and 25000 students).
If you have some reasonable suspicion based on tangible evidence that my machine is spewing out malware or otherwise violating policies designed to protect the university or its network, then by all means, shut off it's connection, show me what you've got, and we'll deal with it like adults.
We do this in addition to the Security agent scans checking for current anti-virus and Windows updates (Mac, Linux, and wi-fi based cell phones are automatically exempt).
I wouldn't want my machine, if infected, to convey malware any more than you do. If you want to make such a "Client Security Agent" available for me to use, then thanks, I'll consider it.
But again, it is my machine, and it is my money that is paying for that Internet connection.
Yep, and thank you for your money. It is being used to pay for OUR network and OUR Internet connection. If YOU want to use YOUR machine on OUR wireless network (that we have graciously provided you with - we don't have to give you an Internet connection) you'd damn well better install the security agent or you can wait in line to use a computer lab where some idiot making $9.00/hour from your tuition (thank you again) can watch everything you're doing on that computer.
Accessing it is not a privilege that the university has graciously given to me for free, it is a paid-for service, and you'd better have a damn good reason for taking my money and then denying it to me. "You might get infected or break copyright law" is not a valid excuse.
Actually it is a privilege you've been given for free even though you paid tuition and student fees. I can only speak for the institution where I am em
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Most schools have similar software in place, Tipically, Cisco Clean Access: http://www.google.com/search?q=clean+access+inurl%3Aedu
When I was in the dorms at my school, a guy maintained an InstallVise installer, which contained the proper registry keys to change window's MTU, and
a greasemoney script which spoofed firefox's user agent and platform, so windows machines looked to be running linux.
After seeing someone with a similar solution get kicked out of another school, being published on slashdot, and knowledge that my school's IT dept was searching
for the maintainer, he stopped.
Clean Access now uses a java jar, for the linux platform. If your school's client has something similar in place for linux users, I suggest that you find a Computer Science student,
and ask them to decompile the jar, using the DJ Java Decompiler, and create a greasemoney script that uses a similar method of generating a session key. You'd also probably need
the special registry keys, which can be found in the source code for sec_cloak.c, which you should be able to find on google.
Hope I could help.
You mean Central Michigan University? It's in Southern Beijing, as the fucking name implies.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."