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China Dominates In NSA-Backed Coding Contest

The Narrative Fallacy writes "With about 4,200 people participating in a US National Security Agency-supported international competition on everything from writing algorithms to designing components, 20 of the 70 finalists were from China, 10 from Russia, and 2 from the US. China's showing in the finals was helped by its large number of entrants, 894. India followed at 705, but none of its programmers was a finalist. Russia had 380 participants; the United States, 234; Poland, 214; Egypt, 145; and Ukraine, 128. Participants in the TopCoder Open was open to anyone, from student to professional; the contest proceeded through rounds of elimination that finished this month in Las Vegas. Rob Hughes, president and COO of TopCoder, says the strong finish by programmers from China, Russia, Eastern Europe and elsewhere is indicative of the importance those countries put on mathematics and science education. 'We do the same thing with athletics here that they do with mathematics and science there.'"

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  1. Re:Or is it due to time and money? by Seakip18 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Better yet, was the opening of said contest even announced on US top tech sites?

    Second, did US employers, who hire our best programmers, tell them to give it a go with time off?

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  2. Re:Damn by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This was true at my college in the late 1980's to early 1990's.

    We built a new spiffy apartment complex for students-- and then filled it with atheletes.

    They cut library publication subscriptions-- and gave more money to the athletic program.

    They were desperate to break into the national scene and failed.

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  3. Another possible reason by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It could just be that the US coders are no longer interested.

    I used to compete in Topcoder. I made it to #2, I was in the top ten for over a year solid. Then I got a job at Google thanks to my Topcoder ranking. I joined a team that had a bunch of other ex-Topcoders in it and, as with them, determined pretty quickly that Topcoder just wasn't worth my time anymore.

    Now, I don't know how many Chinese programmers got jobs through Topcoder, but I do know that the vast majority of the best Topcoder competitors in the US were hired by a surprisingly small set of companies. And, well, as cool as Topcoder is, if you sit down and look at dollars-per-hour . . . it's pretty crummy compared to a real job. Especially since they lowered all the prizes.

    So, US coders do Topcoder, do well, get job, quit Topcoder because we get paid well. Chinese coders do Topcoder, do well, don't get job, don't quit Topcoder. Or they do Topcoder, do well, get job, don't quit Topcoder because they're not yet being paid well enough.

    Doesn't surprise me in the least.

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