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Frank Herbert's Moisture Traps May Be a Reality

Omomyid writes "In the seminal science fiction book 'Dune,' Frank Herbert envisioned the Fremen collecting water from the air via moisture traps and dew collectors. Science Daily reprints a press release from the Fraunhofer Institute in Stuttgart, where scientists working with colleagues from Logos Innovationen have developed a closed-loop and self-sustaining method, no external power required, for teasing the humidity out of desert air and into potable water."

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  1. Re:And this is news how? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you want to get enough water to live out of that mug, I'd suggest you dig a pit, put the mug in the bottom of it, pile any vegetation you can get around the edges, piss in it for good measure, then secure your ground sheet over the top with rocks and use a pebble to make it slanted towards the middle. Actually produces quite a lot of water, you might want to use a cooking pot instead.

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  2. active vs passive by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem with this design is it requires electricity, which means expensive solar cells and periodic maintenance to clean them off.

    The moisture traps mentioned in Dune already do exist, and are entirely passive. You need an underground chamber with a few vents in the sides, and vent in the top with a chimney. The air rises in the chimney creating a constant flow of air into the chamber, and moisture condenses due to the cooler conditions in the chamber than outside.

  3. Re:In the seminal science fiction book 'Dune by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There was a lovely old story by Issac Asimov - can't remember the name, sorry, and any search of his work will be a long walk - that told of the author of Genesis trying to write about the Big Bang in terms of particle physics. His son chastised him over the amount of writing materials that would take. At the end of the dialogue it was oversimplified to "(sigh) In the beginning..."

    Fantasy is a good way to simplify scientific concepts, provided the fantasy actually tracks the science. If there's no believability, it doesn't make a very good story.

    The line between SF and Fantasy has always been a little blurry (nowhere near as blurry as in Chalker's "Masters of Flux and Anchor" series which was a brilliant expansion on Clarke's Law, and a very good read if you can ignore the implicit mysogny in most of his works).

    I've worried that Clarke's Law is taken as transitive by some (thank The Pasta for predictable and reproduceable results). I've also thought that we're on a trend to realisation of C.P.Snow's great cultural divide between the knowledge "haves" and "have-nots". I see this among friends who firmly believe that technology comes from observing certain rituals, rather than scientific advancement and engineering process. They're very Cargo Cult and not a little bit frightening.

    The truly frightening thing is I have difficulty explaining the difference to them. The gulf is almost too deep to cross now.

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  4. Re:And this is news how? by TheLink · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm no expert but a thing to be aware of, it won't produce pure water. It will produce other liquids/chemicals that condense at vaguely similar temperatures that happen to be vapour in there.

    If you haven't been eating or drinking anything terribly bad, using pee shouldn't be too bad, but be a bit selective with the vegetation - skip it if it's got the usual "Nature's warning colours" all over it, or smells funny.

    Various other alcohols (including nasty ones) have boiling points not far below that of water.

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  5. No, more like this... by Grog6 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A large pile of rocks will do the same thing, pretty much.

    http://www.european-pyramids.eu/wb/pages/european-pyramids/greece.php

    Same end effect, with no tech. Much cheaper, I'd bet. :)

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