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The Anti-ODF Whisper Campaign

eldavojohn writes "Groklaw is examining the possibility of an anti-ODF whisper campaign and the effects it has had on the ODF and OOXML Wikipedia articles. In the ODF article, Alex Brown bends the truth to make it seem like no one is supporting ODF, and that it is a flawed and incomplete standard. From the conclusion, 'So what is one to do? You obviously can't trust Wikipedia whatsoever in this area. This is unfortunate, since I am a big fan of Wikipedia. But since the day when Microsoft decided they needed to pay people to "improve" the ODF and OOXML articles, they have been a cesspool of FUD, spin and outright lies, seemingly manufactured for Microsoft's re-use in their whisper campaign. My advice would be to seek out official information on the standards, from the relevant organizations, like OASIS, the chairs of the relevant committees, etc. Ask the questions in public places and seek a public response. That is the ultimate weakness of FUD and lies. They cannot stand the light of public exposure. Sunlight is the best antiseptic.'"

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  1. Re:Let's start with the truth by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Kind of sad how few Word processors there are these days.
    Even on your list at least four of them are based on the same code and two of them are Office.

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  2. Watch the wikipedia history by Toe,+The · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sunlight is the best antiseptic.

    Exactly. Watch the history of the Wikipedia article. Now that light has been shed on the issue, I'll bet the article becomes extremely accurate by the end of the day.

  3. Re:Let's start with the truth by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When have we seen any real innovation? It is like we got to Word and everything stopped. Than and most WP programs have become these huge monster applications that do more than 99% of their users need.

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    See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
  4. Re:Let's start with the truth by Insanity+Defense · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On the other hand, there also is lots of support for MOO XML : - Microsoft

    Unfortunately this gives the impression that Microsoft supports Office Open XML but they don't. They plan to on the next version of MS-Office. They do support DOCX which is an ancestor of OOXML but they don't support OOXML itself. Neither does anyone else.

  5. Rob Weir rigged his tests by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Weir's tests of MS's ODF implementation made a big point of the fact that if you saved a spreadsheet in OO, and read it with Office, it was not fully functional (you get the cell values, but not the formulas, so it becomes a static snapshot of the data).

    Yet Lotus Symphony has almost exactly the same problem. Weir got around that by using a beta of a future version of Symphony that fixes the problem.

  6. Re:Let's start with the truth by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Conspicuously absent: Apple's "Pages" word processor. I'd happily pay Apple for a word processor that plays nicely on my PPC Mac, but I'll be damned if I'm going to lock my data into Yet Another Weird Apple Format. Seriously, what genius at Apple said "we have a 0% share of the word processing market - let's invent our own incompatible format so that no one can exchange data with us!"

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    Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  7. MS not the only ones by blitzkrieg3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I remember that the Budweiser article read like a marketing brochure one time, but it appears to have been cleaned up. The worst offender I've seen is the Debeers. I went there once after reading an article about successful marketing of diamonds for wedding rings in Japan, and was shocked to find that it didn't even have a history page (it now does). Revisions of the article from it's early days gave me a pretty good idea of it's history. You can see a great deal of controversy via it's talk page.