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First 'Anti-Stab' Knife To Go On Sale In Britain

Industrial designer and aichmophobic, John Cornock, has designed a kitchen knife with a rounded edge making it almost impossible to stab your relatives during a tedious Christmas dinner. Mr Cornock was inspired to make the knife after watching a documentary in which doctors advocated banning traditional knives. "It can never be a totally safe knife, but the idea is you can't inflict a fatal wound. Nobody could just grab one out of the kitchen drawer and kill someone," Cornock said. The knife will sell for between £40-50.

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  1. Next on the list... by internerdj · · Score: 1

    Lightweight cast iron skillets. Far far too many people have access to this lethal bludgeoning instrument.

  2. People Safe knife by rufus_rizzo · · Score: 1

    Next will be the Anti-Stab and Anti-Cut knife. Because people can still cut each other...

    1. Re:People Safe knife by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      Next thing you know they'll want to take away my stockpile of assault rifles and hand guns.

    2. Re:People Safe knife by kdemetter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Next will be the Anti-Stab and Anti-Cut knife. Because people can still cut each other...

      My thoughts exactly.

      It reminds me of where i work ( and eat ) : they only one little plastic knives to be used , which makes it very hard to cut food with .
      However , they go through human skin like butter ( can't count the number of times i'v cut myself with one trying to peel an apple ).

  3. Safe? by bigpresh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, you can't stab someone with it, you have to slash them instead?

    A well-placed slash to the throat is still likely to cause death through blood loss.

    The knife isn't the problem, it's the nutter holding it that you need to deal with!

  4. Safe tool/weapon by NoxNoctis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The problem has never, and will never, be the availability of "weapons". The fact is, there are weapons all around us. Sitting here at my desk I have a multitude of tools that could easily be used to kill someone: a pen, a pencil, a flashlight, tape, an allen wrench, my keys, the lanyard on my keys, and the list goes on. Perhaps I should step outside... I'll add my car to the list of things that I could easily kill someone with. If I had a wood chipper, I'd add that as well. These items will never be outlawed.

    Edged weapons, firearms, and bows/crossbows/compound-bows have real uses. If you want to go hunting, I would suggest bringing a knife and at least one firearm. Want to carve a turkey, you're going to need a knife (no, I do not support the electric knives). Marksmanship requires a firearm or bow of some sorts. I'll concede the fact that these items were originally designed for war, but they have found legitimate uses in every day society.

    The real problem is the people who would wield these "weapons". Give a kid a piece of string an they might start playing Cat's Cradle. Give a serial killer that same piece of string and they'll strangle someone with it. The government (UK, US, etc) should be going after the criminals-- dare I say it, with a vengeance. Remove the people from society who would wish harm upon others. These people will find weapons where you might not think them to be; it's in their nature.

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    "You're awefully cute, but unfortunately for you, you're made of meat."
    1. Re:Safe tool/weapon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The problem has never, and will never, be the availability of "weapons".

      Correct; the problem is disposing of the body/bodies.

    2. Re:Safe tool/weapon by Entropy2016 · · Score: 1

      You're assuming person A is determined to kill person B in all scenarios, by any means necessary. Take for example a crime of passion, in which the person experiences what is technically temporary insanity. They will try to inflict harm (although inflicting death may not be a conscious goal), and will use whatever weapon is convenient at the moment (rather than being able to plan ahead enough to file your knives to points).

      Keep in mind, in the UK, guns aren't anywhere near as readily available as they are in the US. So with an utter lack of guns, stabbing with a knife would be the first weapon you default upon. But with nothing but non-pointed knives available, you'll have to default to another less effective weapon (assumably less effective otherwise, you'd have gone for that other weapon first, right?).

      Sure you've got flashlights and ballpoint pens, and woodchippers, but those are a helluva lot harder to kill someone with. Repeated blows from flashlights, dull pens, or a wrestling match toward a woodchipper buy the victim much more time and opportunity to get help or get away. A pointed knife entering anywhere into the chest cavity is almost instantly a game-over for them.

      You can't just say blunted knives are bad due to worst-case scenarios. A pragmatist should consider the average-case as well. If there is a benefit to be had in average-cases, well, why not do it? Nobody ever claimed blunted knives would make murder nearly impossible, but it's a decent enough handicap.

    3. Re:Safe tool/weapon by Entropy2016 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sorry but there's something I forgot to add to my previous post:

      When you encounter determined criminals who go out of their way to stab someone by making them file blunted knives or make home-made shivs, you make prosecuting them a ton easier. The weapon becomes evidence of premeditation. This allows the judicial system to remove them from society much more successfully.

    4. Re:Safe tool/weapon by NoxNoctis · · Score: 1

      In a crime of passion, you are correct, the assailant will use whatever is at hand. This only proves my point that anything can be a weapon when the intent is to cause harm. After all, a weapon is "any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat, fighting, or war..." (dictionary.com)

      With the UK basically outlawing firearms, the only two things that could happen, did; for the most part only criminals have guns, and those that don't moved to knives. Now knife crime is up. I don't see that as helping crime at all.

      Let's entertain the idea of the UK banning pointed knives. Two things will happen: criminals will file the rounded tip to a point, or they'll replace stabbing with slashing. And since you can't very well outlaw knives (what would cut meat with?), you're stuck. Criminals will always find creative ways of making weapons work better for them.

      Yes, modifying something to make it a better weapon gives evidence of premeditation... Or does it? In order to answer that, we must first ask ourselves what the function of the police is. Their job is not the protection of the individual, but the community as a whole. If a crime is committed against you, the police are only there to pick up the pieces. So an otherwise law-abiding citizen may break the law to ensure their safety. Does this mean that when they are forced to defend themselves and they use the illegally modified knife that the were looking for trouble? No, it certainly does not.

      Pragmatists don't write laws. Pragmatists don't enforce laws. And pragmatists do not prosecute those who break the laws. Laws are written by people who want to make the worst-case scenario illegal, regardless of how it could affect everyone else. Look no further than New York's or California's firearm laws for proof of this.

      I'll be blunt, if I'm a criminal and they outlawed knives, I'd still carry one. Laws only affect those that follow them.

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      "You're awefully cute, but unfortunately for you, you're made of meat."
    5. Re:Safe tool/weapon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are two problems with your argumentation.

      First, I don't think this is about preventing murder. This is about preventing fatal accidents. Like it is quite easy to accidentially shoot someone. But it is a lot harder to accidentially strangle someone with a string. I am quite sure it happens but given the availability of strings this doesn't seem a meaningful threat.

      Second, your perception of crime is quite disturbing. Most people in jail are actually not that different from you and me. It is not like in the comics and movies. In the real world normal people commit crimes for quite trivial reasons. Just look at the current file sharing case. Actually I would argue in the USA more sociopaths leave the prison than enter it.

    6. Re:Safe tool/weapon by ubuwalker31 · · Score: 1

      This anti-stab knife is horribly flawed. Sure, it is difficult to stab with it, but it looks unsafe. By unsafe, I mean, difficult to sharpen, difficult to chop and cut veggies and meat with. This will lead to injury. Loss of fingers. Etc. This sort of dangerous product is the sort of thing that should be kept off shelves, IMHO.

    7. Re:Safe tool/weapon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to forget that being struck hard in the head with a heavy object is also a very probable game-over.

      Crimes of passion will always be a problem. Shoelaces, plastic bags, and pillows can also kill relatively quickly and plenty of crimes of passion have been committed with these sort of tools.

      I don't have facts on this, but I'd expect that premeditated crimes vastly outnumber crimes of passion. As a premeditated killer is going to take the time to get it right and will either obtain or make the appropriate tools with which to commit their crime, you're not going to prevent many of these. All you've done is made it harder for people to defend themselves from the actual premeditated crimes.

  5. Monty Python lives!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never realized that those Monty Python skits I watched as a kid would someday be reality in Britain. What's next, torture using the "Comfy Chair"? Oh wait, the Americans already use that don't they.

  6. Just ban knives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The doctors have it right; just ban knives. Knife wounds are expensive to treat.

  7. Where's the market for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who is going to pay $60-$75 for a knife that doesn't perform well one of the prime functions that knives are designed for -- stabbing? Hey, if it doesn't work for stabbing my wife, then I want my money back! And I'm sure Hans Reiser feels the same way...

  8. Please invent anti-pummeling fists as well by SpuriousLogic · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... and anti-kick boots ... and anti-bite teeth

  9. Are you happy now, by cwike · · Score: 1

    ...you've put Liverpool out of buisness

  10. Yeah, this is totally stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because no one on planet earth has ever been accidentally stabbed with a knife.

  11. Chefs? by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 1

    Ever slaughtered a lobster? The humane way of doing it is to place the pointy end above the brain and stab with a single thrust. This would not be possible with such a knife. I am sure a lot of chefs will go out of their way to obtain a traditional pointy knife.

    1. Re:Chefs? by Jimmy_Slimmy · · Score: 1

      On the one hand, I agree with you.  Chefs will find a need for a pointy knife.  For lobsters, a pointy knife with a short blade, squared off and sharpened at the end, and dull on the sides.  I can hold the lobster, easily insert the blade into the target area, pith, and done.  I can not run through the lobster and and pierce my hand, because the working length of the blade is short.  Point for me.  I can not stab the rib cage of my annoying sister, glance off a rib, cut through the muscle to the side, continue the motion through the interstice between ribs, and pierce the lung and heart.  Point for me.

      I would buy this lobster knife for my sister. Point for me.

      On the other hand, I am very aware that I have a second amendment right to store all my guns in the kitchen with my samuri swords, guillotines, stilettos, nerve gas rockets, and tactical nuke I bought in the Ukraine.  And out with my hunting gear and plastique. Or did I mean my hinting gear?  Point for me.

      On the other hand, I support the free market, and the patent system, that rewards innovation and choice in the market place.  Point for me.

      So, I appear to be undecided.  I will have to think about this more.  Further points or counter points from you would be so nice.

    2. Re:Chefs? by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 1

      Lobster is just one example. In the case of slaughtering a lobster you would be letting the knife do all the work with its wieght. It will be done on as chopping block so the length if the knife need only be sufficient to get to the board.

      What about a filetting knfe for fish it has to be long thing and sharp due to having to be able to properly inset and remove the delicate flesh from a delicate ribcage without destroying either. A blunted knife in this situation would be dangerous to attempt to filet with. It needs to be thin long sharp and flexible by its nature.

      I am not an american citizen nor are the UK residents whom this will effect so second ammendment is moot. In Australia we already restrict any knife sales to those over the age of sixteen.

      While I am not against the sale of "safety knives". The traditional "unsaafe" knives are actually safer in some situations. I am against the banning of traditionals while they are still safer than the "safer" alternatives for legitimate uses.

  12. Looking at it, it can still stab. by ls671 · · Score: 1

    Just by looking at it, one could still stab somebody with it by putting a little more pressure on it. Maybe it will keep a 2 years old from stabbing his little sister but that's about it.

    Somebody can get stabbed with a piece of still armature designed to reinforce concrete although its got a flat tip. Somebody mad enough to stab someone should find enough force to make this thing penetrate into a body which is mostly soft. Pointed tips don't go through bone anyway. Also, the sharp edge will help once the tool is in a bit.

    Who knows, maybe it's got a psychological effect that would cause somebody mad enough to do it to control its temper but I doubt it ;-)

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    Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
    1. Re:Looking at it, it can still stab. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when fighting you rarely get a chance for a full force direct blow (knife, fist, foot or other utensil same principal)- most contact is glancing or when in movement which lessens impact.

      The rounded point does make a difference - especially if you start to legally consider a 'point' as an offensive weapon. Not useful in the US but over here in the UK where knives are the weapon of choice it could be of benefit.

      Personally I carry a small thin flat head screwdriver useful for many things including personal defence.

  13. What? by EddyPearson · · Score: 1

    "...but the idea is you can't inflict a fatal wound. Nobody could just grab one out of the kitchen drawer and kill someone,"

    Bollocks I could.

    Tilt the knife a quarter inch up when you thrust and he's dead.

    Pointless, remain in Idle....

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  14. What a crock of #$&* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without a doubt this is the most ill-conceived, stupid concept I have seen in a long time. If the twit that invented this thinks that it will save even one single life from some maniac out to kill some one then I have a bridge to sell him. And it will doubtless make kitchen tasks more difficult to perform as well. Well done morons, you have succeeded in wasting time and effort in making a useless piece of crap and in the process I am sure that you have made us all less intelligent through your efforts.

    Regards, an Anonymous Coward, who does not care
         

  15. Daft by stevied · · Score: 1

    Ludicrous. Some guy was on the radio the other day saying that kitchen knives don't need points.

    How do you cut up stuff like large cabbages? You either need an *insanely* large knife, or you do what everybody else does at the moment which is to stab the fucker with the point and then cut around until you've got all the way through.

    Anybody seriously intent on wounding, of course, will still have access to screwdrivers, awls, and doubtless hundreds of other sharp, pointed everyday objects. Hell, even with this new knife, a quick chop to the side of the neck could probably still open the jugular vein or the carotid artery.

    1. Re:Daft by Tim4444 · · Score: 1

      Well, sooner or later someone will patent acute angles and corner the market on pointy things. Just in case you might want to practice smashing your cabbage with a rolling pin. A bowling ball might work well too.

  16. Cutting me own throat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    50 Pounds? That is like cutting me own throat!