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Windows 7 Licensing a "Disaster" For XP Shops

snydeq writes "Enterprise licensing for Windows 7 could cause major headaches and add more cost to the Windows 7 migration effort, InfoWorld reports. Under the proposed license, businesses that purchase PCs with Windows 7 pre-installed within six months of the Oct. 23 launch date will be able to downgrade those systems to XP, and later upgrade back to Windows 7 when ready to migrate users. PCs bought after April 22, 2010, however, can only be downgraded to Vista — no help for XP-based organizations, which would be wise to wait 12 to 18 months before adopting Windows 7, so that they can test hardware and software compatibility and ensure their vendors' Windows 7 support meets their needs. XP shops that chose not to install Vista will have to either rush their migration process or spend extra to enroll in Microsoft's Software Assurance program, which allows them to install any OS version — for about $90 per year per PC."

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  1. My entire shop is SuSE Linux by WillAffleckUW · · Score: -1, Troll

    We have three boxen that run WinXP and we won't be "upgrading".

    Why?

    Cause we can't afford to waste the money when we're crunching statistical genetics regressions on graphics cycles that have nothing to do with work.

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    1. Re:My entire shop is SuSE Linux by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 0, Troll

      Well, we do have one UNIX box, so I'll have to adjust my pony tail as I think up a response to your quip.

      Oh, wait, no, I actually have short hair.

      Maybe you need to realize that computers are a commodity and we don't need to overpay for an OS that is at times 1/3 the total price.

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  2. Re:The power of lock-in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Windows is far from the only obstacle keeping Linux off the desktop.

    This is so right.

    There are 12,000 people on Ubuntu forums, right now. A straw poll of all of them, found that 6,000 people are there to get help because Ubuntu has massive flaws in its hardware support and usability (even with Free drivers, like Intel's and drivers based on open specs, like ATI's). While the other 6,000 are there to flame people who tripped up on the flaws, because admitting there are problems disrupts their view of a utopian GNU/Society. What is achieved? Nothing, the two forces simply cancel each other out and no decent software ever comes out of it.

    Apparently they get Freetards trying to get into Heaven all the time. Saint Peter's got a standard technique that gets them every time:

    St Peter: What good works did you do to make you deserving of a place in Heaven?

    Freetard: I helped people out on the Ubuntu forums, all day, from my mother's basement!

    St Peter: Ubuntu eh? Tried that myself, it's wank, couldn't get my dual monitor setup working. It worked perfectly in Windows.

    Freetard: Get what you pay for I guess. You should have tried Googling for the problem.

    St Peter: I did.

    Freetard: Maybe Linux is just too hard for you.

    St Peter: That's a little unfriendly! Anyway, God tried it and he couldn't get dual-monitors working either.

    Freetard: Yeah, well patience is a virtue.

    St Peter: I've been waiting since '97!

    Freetard (growing furious): Well I guess that some people prefer being spoon fed, while others enjoy to grow from challenges presented to them.

    St Peter: So this is how you helped people then is it?

    Freetard (confused): Well. Yeah, I suppose.

    St Peter (reaches for the big red button that will open the trap-door the Freetard is stood upon): Yes, that's exactly what I thought. Goodbye.

    Tragically everything the Freetard said above is quoted from the Ubuntu forums. The sad truth: people are getting exposed to GNU/Linux and hating it, I'll let the reader work out why that might be.

  3. Theres only one thing to say about that by xednieht · · Score: 0, Troll

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!
    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!


    I love Linux and my Mac

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  4. Re:Microsoft seeking a patent... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 0, Troll

    Replaced their Office interface with that goddawful ever changing ribbon which trolls, Microsoft fanbois and astroturfers/shills continue to defend despite it completely ruining productivity, and now they're incorporating it into every damn program they can

    FTFY

  5. Re:YOU ARE A GIGANTIC GREAT FAGGOT by AliasTheRoot · · Score: -1, Troll

    you are a gigantic great faggot
    you're the man now dog!
    netcraft confirms it, you are a faggot
    in Soviet Russia faggots are you
    I for one do not welcome you as our gigantic faggot overlords!

    faGGOT@CRABAPPLE.COM

  6. Migrate to Mac by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Forget Windows forever. Next time your office needs new computers, migrate to Mac.

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  7. Re:The whole thing is silly by jmorris42 · · Score: -1, Troll

    > When Apple releases a new OS and says it's not compatible with the old,....

    Apple products are virtually unheard of in corporate cube farms. Perhaps these legacy issues you speak of are part of the reason for that. Well that and the fact Apple doesn't even sell a product suitable for a cube farm... maybe we are seeing a pattern?

    Apple is only interested in selling to trendy yuppies and flaming homosexuals. Everyone knows that, right? That is why "there's a huge line to suck Steve Jobs' dick." Has nothing to do with Apple's lack of support for legacy softwre, that's just what flaming homosexuals do.

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  8. Re:Put on the fire-retardant suit, it's flame-time by Darby · · Score: -1, Troll


    As far as initial configuration of the OS upon install- I think that if you ask ANYONE who has tried it- they will tell you windows 7's install was easier and more complete than any operating system they've tried to date.

    That's really stupid.

    It didn't install a full blown database server, development tools, and what would be many thousands of dollars worth of other software, so no, a windows installation will never be even in the same league in terms of completeness.

    What a truly laughable statement.

  9. Re:Being in I.T. must suck by Knara · · Score: 0, Troll

    All of this is irrelevant.

    Anyone who manages more than a handful of desktops and isn't using volume licenses with software assurance contracts, but is instead using OEM or retail box licenses in their company is a moron and should be fired.

    None of this effects any competently administered IT desktop support departments.

  10. Re:Put on the fire-retardant suit, it's flame-time by Darby · · Score: -1, Troll

    You are arguing that because Ubuntu comes with a bunch of software- that it is not reasonable to compare any other aspect of it to another operating system?

    Wow, it's truly amazing the level of rank stupidity you see around these days. Nothing about "other aspects" you lying, whiny little bitch. It was a very specific aspect which *you* **chose** to compare. I proved you dead fucking wrong. Grow up, be a man.. not the whiny little bitch you present yourself as and get on with your life.

    We are arguing about operating systems here- not about apps.

    No, *you* chose to make an obviously false claim. I proved you wrong. You then started whining and lying. That's what happened. It's a public forum. Everyone can look at this thread. You're not looking clever by lying.

    *You*, shithead, made the claim. I proved you to be full of shit. Now you're making up some unrealistic, totally biased, furniture store "analogy" and trying to retroactively claim it's related to what you previously claimed?!?

    Seriously, act like an adult, act like a man, act like you even understand the basics of an ethical system.

    You're wrong. That is a personal failure. You were not good enough at thinking to engage in this conversation. I'm sorry your parents were such utter abject failures at their jobs as parents such that they didn't bother taking the time to teach you about thinking, but they failed, and they set you up to be a complete fucking failure. Well, the world needs ditch diggers too, I suppose.

  11. Windows 7 is awesome anyway! by gurugarzah · · Score: 0, Troll

    Who cares! whine complain "act sympathetic for BIG businesses" who don't want to upgrade. It is 2009, If you had a business writing software, I think/know it would become difficult to support something you wrote 7 years ago. IMO Windows 7 is a redeemer for certain. As I write this from my Macbook!

  12. Re:Put on the fire-retardant suit, it's flame-time by Darby · · Score: -1, Troll

    I figured that you would be able to bring up some reasonable arguments aginst mine- but you didn't

    LOL. You never came up with an argument you dumb fuck. You merely played a "moving the goalposts" asshattery and then made up this feeble bit of bullshit long after you were destroyed intellectually. Seriously, Douche, You have yet to present an actual point. You lose. Hard.