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Carnegie Researchers Say Geotech Can't Cure Ocean Acidification

CarnegieScience writes "Plans to stop global warming by 'geoengineering' the planet by putting aerosols in the atmosphere to block sunlight are controversial, to say the least. Scientists are now pointing out that even if it keeps the planet cool, it will do almost nothing to stop another major problem — ocean acidification. The ocean will keep on absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere (making carbonic acid) and the water's pH will get too low for corals and other marine life to secrete skeletons. So this is another strike against a quick fix of our climate problems."

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  1. Al Gore's manbearpig got another one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Al gore and his manbearpig got to you too huh?

    Seriously, though, anyone with half a brain knows global warming is complete and utter bullshit. How many "snowstorm in july" stories will it take to convince you morons?

  2. Re:What Climate Problem? by arizwebfoot · · Score: 0, Troll

    And what about Methane?

    As I understand it, methane is a bigger problem them CO2. They tell us to not fart anymore.

    And yet, when those monster Apatosaurus, including the popular, but obsolete synonym Brontosaurus roamed the earth. I dare say one herd/tribe/pod produced a much methane as all the cattle that currently populate the earth.

    Now, take into account how many of these methane makers roamed the earth in their day and one wonders - if methane is the bigger problem - how life ever survived at all.

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  3. Re:Volcanoes by Publikwerks · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...So volcanos are terrorists? Or is the Earth trying to Carradine itself?

  4. Re:What Climate Problem? by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: -1, Troll

    Weird, I'm using my reliance on actual figures to support my conclusion that it isn't. I understand, however, that not being able to blame society for destroying the planet in some way doesn't allow lefties to feel enlightened and judgmental or convince the public to accept increased government control over their lives.

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  5. Re:Volcanoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Prior to your mom I was doing your grandma.

  6. Where did all the non idiots go? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Guess the bunch of sudo scientists here believe communism is a viable economic system also.

  7. why do you think by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Troll

    that saying the obvious

    1. is somehow educational
    2. modifies my point in any way

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  8. Re:What Climate Problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Global Warming != Ocean Acidification

    Until people stop relating every fricken environmental problem to "Global Warming"(tm) the sooner we can start giving attention to things like Ocean Acidification, that are less politically motivated and debatable. Al Gore has done more to harm the environment than help it by incorporating and profiting from Global Warming, to the detriment of more serious issues that have far better science and less political hyperbole.

  9. Re:What Climate Problem? by scorp1us · · Score: -1, Troll

    The Church of Global Warming (renamed to the Church of Climate Change, since we're now cooling since 2001), does not allow itself to be questioned. It is headed by Al Gore, known to followers as the AlGoracle, or 'Goracle, It is in mimicry of the Goracle's own behavior, that he has refused to debate any climate-educated scientist. The Goracle is infallible, and options or questions to the contrary are forbidden, lest be be proven fallible. If the Goracle's words were ever to be disproved, his followers would have to examine evidence to the contrary and decide for themselves. This is always doom for any religion. This is not desired by the Goracle, or his followers, so information to the contrary is vehemently suppressed. I myself have fallen victim to their zealotry, even when not attempting to directly challenge the Goracle.

    It seems that there is a segment of society that must feel guilty, that just can't be happy with the status quo. That this guilty carbon pleasure somehow justifies their suffering (I am guilty, and that is why I am unhappy) These people are not a new phenomenon, rather the Puritans that settled this country thought in very similar ways. We will be stuck with them forever I am afraid.

    But the evidence is stacking up the CO2 induced warming is not as risky as the church preaches. There are certain things you can say that will get you modded troll:

    • Lest we forget that corals were some of the earliest forms of life on the planet. Yet, they survived the time when all that carbon we were burning was still in the atmosphere and the oceans.
    • Despite ever increasing levels of CO2, we have been cooling since 2001. Look at the UAH Global temperature anomaly.
    • Jesus had several magic tricks - turning water into wine, walking on water, etc. The most amazing trick that the 'Goracle has done was when he waved his hands during an "Inconvenient Truth" and said "the relationship between carbon dioxide and temperature is complex". Everything after that statement was science by consensus (80% of scientists), and not science. While 80% is a convincing number, if they all use the same models, its a wonder its not 99% to 100%.
    • A side effect of that statement is he has everyone believing that temperature follows CO2. But there are quite a few studies that it is the opposite - that show temperature increases cause CO2. If that is the case, then fighting CO2 is a waste because we can't control the temperature of the planet.
    • Despite years of predicting no Arctic sea ice, ice area has rebounded for the past two years and is now back in 1 STDEV of normal.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the environment. But CO2, is a wolf outside of our fence, and we have wolves inside our fences. There is a plummeting of amphibian populations from toxins. There is MTBE in breast milk (a rocket fuel additive). There are plenty of species about to go extinct from habitat destruction. There is plenty to worry about. Many people forget that we're talking 2degrees C per century.

    I think the biggest problem is scientists have found out how to be lawyers. They've found a way to create a need for themselves. By forecasting doom, they need to study the nature of doom. You don't see headlines from the other stories as much because they are much smaller scale, higher degrees of accountability, smaller error bars, and relatively well-understood outcomes.

    Another great trick is they've tricked everyone into thinking there is such a thing as "climate science". But no one can perform an experiment big enough and measure it accurately enough to get any meaningful data. Its a heyday! All the funding and no accountability!

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