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Opera Unite Web Server Benchmarked

Posted by timothy on from the not-bad-for-a-bonus-feature dept.

worb writes "Opera Unite comes with a web server which is supposedly going to 'redefine the web.' But how well does it actually perform? Is it a threat to other server solutions? Someone put it to the test, and published the results. While nginx, one of the fastest web servers available, is 5 times faster, a PHP+Apache+MySQL server is only 2 times as fast. A compiled C++ server, the MadFish WebToolkit, is 6 times faster. He concludes that Opera Unite's server is impressive, and that the others come nowhere close to the ease of use."

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  1. Misleading, again by SteelRealm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Opera's Unite is not meant to refine the web as a hosting solution in the traditional sense, but as a way to make your files accessible to yourself and others through it. I don't think anyone is questioning whether it is a better hosting solution then a dedicated server. It's also worth it to note that Unite is a Alpha release with lots of bugs to be fixed and performance tuning and optimization to be done.

    1. Re:Misleading, again by SteelRealm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Considering how quickly Opera patches everything, I don't see this as any bigger a threat than normal browsing. People who use your Unite page to access things have only got access to what you allow them to see and what you've choicen to host through Unite.

  2. Disturbing trend by nausea_malvarma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm disturbed by the centralization taking place on the web, where by networks like email are replaced with proprietary walled-garden social networks, and entire webpages once written in the open html standard are being done entirely in flash. I'm starting to have hope for the future now. HMTL 5 will reduce the need for proprietary plugins, for sure. This Opera web server thing could work towards decentralizing the web as well. Sure, anybody can set up a web server to host their own content in theory, but its too difficult for average folks to do. With this technology, perhaps more people will sidestep commercial options, and host web pages on their own - meaning less reliance on geocities, google sites, ect. And thats good. It's not healthy for a few companies to have that sort of control over a medium.

    1. Re:Disturbing trend by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm disturbed by the centralization taking place on the web, where by networks like email are replaced with proprietary walled-garden social networks, and entire webpages once written in the open html standard are being done entirely in flash.

      I know! For example, Facebook has made it completely impossible to deploy and host one's own website. They simply *force* you to put everything in their system. And don't get me started on the likes of Twitter, which has forced everyone to stop using Twitter in favour of their system. I mean, at least if I could *choose*, but you can't because they can control your *mind*! Yes, very disturbing indeed...

    2. Re:Disturbing trend by AnonGCB · · Score: 4, Informative

      Except that you don't need to use opera in order to access the content, you just follow a link and any browser should take you there.

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    3. Re:Disturbing trend by nausea_malvarma · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You aren't taking network effects into account. I'm young, and most of my friends are in their 20s. Some of them never check their emails, and insist that I send everything to them through myspace. Why? Because all of their friends use myspace too, and none of their friends email that often. So yeah, I have the choice of emailing my friends, but their dependence on myspace forces my hand. We all have a choice, but these mediums have generated enough momentum already that it's very hard to get by when using the alternatives.

    4. Re:Disturbing trend by worb · · Score: 4, Informative

      A more thoughtful take on the subject can be found here:

      I'm surprised to see that people are still linking to this. It's basically full of errors, and was written in rage over all the hype Unite was getting. He was angry about how people just repeated Opera's claims blindly. Kind of like you are blindly referring to his blog post even though it turns out that the post is too inaccurate to really be used for anything.

      You really should read some of the comments on the page you are linking to, in order to see people correcting all the misconceptions. For example the misconception that everything goes through a proxy, as you claim it does. Furthermore Chris's comments where fun until Haavard took him down a notch on his own blog, resulting in Chris himself posting on Haavard's blog with a massively different tone.

    5. Re:Disturbing trend by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 5, Informative

      all of your exchanges pass through Opera's servers first.

      Only if you're behind NAT, and your router isn't configured to allow UPnP.

      Otherwise, individual connections are truly peer-to-peer. Opera servers don't get involved. They are only used to publish the list of services available for your account, not to access them (except for the NAT workaround).

  3. Re:It's a toy... by SteelRealm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not meant to act as a serious server, just to allow easy access to files and content made avaible to Opera on the user's computer. They said it's unlikely PHP and MySQL will be added, but the possiblity that they might do it is there in the future. It's a toy to attract users and to maintain those who may consider leaving the browser, and it's doing just that. Anyone who wants to share content with friends/family can easily do it, and it's incredibly handy for people who use multiple computers.

  4. Re:Still an Epic Fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...and leave all your data on someone else's server, which is exactly what Unite allows you NOT to do. Why would I pay for web hosting or let Facebook hold my data hostage when I can distribute whatever I want, including any size pictures (have you seen the size of Facebook photos?) to whomever I want using Unite?

  5. Re:So Opera web browser now runs as a system servi by worb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And yet it's still smaller than the so-called "pure browsers" ;)

  6. Re:So Opera web browser now runs as a system servi by SteelRealm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You realize it is still smaller download then Firefox and has a smaller memory footprint then all other browsers, right?

  7. Stupid benchmark by royallthefourth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The summary conflated a web server with a database and a programming language (PHP+Apache+MySQL) when discussing benchmarking of just a web server.

    I'll go ahead and assume that the article isn't worth reading.

  8. I feel vindicated to some extent by bogaboga · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...He concludes that Opera Unite's server is impressive, and that the others come nowhere close to the ease of use...

    When I suggested that Apache needed some thing near to easy configuration, I was labeled a troll and requested not to tinker with such a server if I did not know what I was doing. By the way, I know Apache has some configuration GUIs but none comes close to Opera's offer.

    In fact, I was castigated for being one of those who crave "point and click" interfaces that are "responsible" for most of the chaos on the internet.

    I am happy that I have one fellow who agrees with me. I will not be surprised if Opera's web server snatches market share from the established ones.

  9. What is this juvenile fascination with speed? by presidenteloco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How dumb, or seriously ADD,
    do you have to be, when the major question you ask about
    a new technology is: Yeah, but how fast is it?

    "We've invented this program that is smarter than the average bear"

    "Yeah, but how fast is it?"

    "You don't understand! This baby even knows that you're not SUPPOSED
    to fight forest fires!"

    "Yeah, but how fast is it?"

    Seriously, these speed evaluations are irrelevant, boring, and inane to
    the extreme. How about some evaluation of the possible uses this new
    technology will be put to, and how its abilities to support these uses
    compares to other competing or similar technologies.

    "Look at this new amp we've got! Look at this. It goes up to 11! Unbelievable!"

    "Yeah, but how fast does it go pedal to the metal, man?"

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  10. Re:Still an Epic Fail by Fallingcow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you want to do all the tasks done by Unite but easier, get cheap or free web hosting and a Facebook page.

    I can set up 40GB+ of music to play via a decent-looking web interface for anyone I send a password and URL to in less than a minute and with 5 or 6 clicks using my Facebook account and some shared web hosting? 'Cuz I did that earlier today with Opera Unite.

    I went in to this skeptical, and I barely even used Opera before this (I'm a web developer and, though I admire Opera, I need the tools available in Firefox) but it only took about 5 minutes of tinkering with this thing for me to be sold on it. I believe my exact words on testing the media sharing were "whoa, fuckin' cool!"

  11. I Call Shenanigans by mpapet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can you say "huge honking security hole"?

    The great news is there are viable replacements for this reference to Microsoft's operating system. Debian, BSD's, maybe some other Linux distro are more than capable of serving and Opera runs on all of them.

    Another Opera summary that's mostly flamebait. That's disappointing because it's a good idea whose time has been very long in coming.

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  12. Re:So Opera web browser now runs as a system servi by dreemernj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mileage always varies. I use Opera because if I open up 6 or 7 tabs of the pages I usually visit in Opera, it takes up 90 megs of RAM. If I open them in Firefox they take up around 750 megs. For others the results could probably be the exact opposite.

    I will say that, as a long time Opera user, Opera 10 is turning into one of the best releases they've ever done. It outperforms Opera 9.x in any way that matters to me. Speed, memory usage, stability. 9.6 was starting to get on my nerves and I was beginning to use Chrome more and more. But 10 has been a dream.

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  13. Re:Still an Epic Fail by ardor · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can set up 40GB+ of music to play via a decent-looking web interface for anyone I send a password and URL to

    Nobody expects the RIAA inquisition!

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  14. The real speed test... by bgspence · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How long does it take someone unfamiliar with a each web server take to download the required software and serve the first page?

    I bet Opera Unite beats the other solutions by a mile.

  15. Re:So Opera web browser now runs as a system servi by BikeHelmet · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is an Alpha or Beta. Opera 9.64 (final) is only 5.3MB large.

    On my computer Firefox consumes way more memory than Opera - but it has so many extensions and plugins installed, that I'd be surprised if it didn't.

  16. Yeah, right . . . by siloko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and most of my friends are in their 20s. Some of them never check their emails

    I'm guessing none of your friends either work or are at college. Try telling your boss or University sysadmin that you don't want customer emails or system notices because you won't read them unless they are sent via mySpace . . . No job/Slap around the face will quickly ensue!