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The Origins of Video Game Names

Blogger Drew Mackie has posted a lengthy analysis of the etymology of dozens of names from popular video game characters. It examines the real-life and mythological roots of names from Final Fantasy, Zelda, Mario Bros., Street Fighter, and many other prominent franchises, complete with citations where appropriate. Quoting: "It's speculated that Street Fighter's Russian wrestler Zangief takes his name from a real-life Russian wrestler, Victor Zangiev. More interesting to me is that the working name for this character was Vodka Gobalsky. This is notable for two reasons — for one, that this name is amazing [and] deserves to enter into the public consciousness and, for another, that it bears a striking resemblance to the name of a Russian boxer in Nintendo's Punch-Out!! series, Vodka Drunkenski. I'm sure this says something about Japanese perception of Russian people. The latter Vodka, by the way, goes by the name Soda Popinski in US translations of the game, presumably because Nintendo of America didn't allow references to booze."

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  1. Perception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this says something about Japanese perception of Russian people

    I think it says that they're much in line with the rest of the world on that one.

    1. Re:Perception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now I know what I missed in GTA IV's story-line.

      Sure, I was shocked, and laughed my ass off, at the same time, when...
      I came out of a bar, and thought what was being drunk, would be one of the many (many) bugs of the game,
      and because of that tried to press some button to get it going again, fell on the ground, accidentally pressed the shoot button,
      and shot my girlfriend in the head. She was dead on the place.

      Needless to say, that I am very happy that this wasn't real life, and that virtual worlds exist. :D

      At least you had a girlfriend, dude.

    2. Re:Perception by Cyberax · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, I can't drink with you. I need to walk my dancing bear through the Red Square.

  2. Re:Why is this Games and not Idle? by binarylarry · · Score: 3, Funny

    Which is a shame considering the seriousness of the topic.

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  3. Re:wow by selven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're posting on slashdot.

  4. Oddly enough... by minvaren · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...they left out the origin of the "Jack" character in Jack Attack.

    (I appear to be showing my age here... Hold on, there's some pesky kids out front...)

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  5. Re:wow by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    professional gaming

    twittering

    blogging

    arguing over who gets to love whom

    discussing how the US president swats a fly

    That reads a lot like the "extracurricular activities" section of resumes of recent college grads that pass over my desk at work these days.

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  6. I never thought I'd be justified in saying this, by uxbn_kuribo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But my GOD. TLDR, much? And half of it is either pointless speculation, or stuff like "I don't actually KNOW the origin of..." Must be a slow news day in IT.

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  7. Donkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    FTA:

    "His last name seems likes a clear reference to King Kong, but the Donkey part doesn't. Contrary to many other urban legends that say otherwise, Donkey Kong earned his first name as a result of Miyamoto wanting to call the villain something that conveyed a sense of stubbornness and stupidity, though he later found out that the English-speaking world doesn't interpret the word donkey in this way."

    Wrong. Of course we do. From the OED:

    donkey
    1. a. A familiar name for the ass.
    2. a. A stupid or silly person.

    Why do you think Gordon Ramsay keeps using the word to describe the chefs who work under him? He didn't just pull it out of his ass.

    1. Re:Donkey by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 2, Funny

      I see what you did there.

      Out of his ass indeed.

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  8. Stories behind game names... by HimajinX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Working in Japanese to English game localization, I'm often assigned the task of coming up with English names for characters. Usually this is just a transliteration, but in some cases a completely new name is required. The publisher makes the final call, and I've had to fight hard sometimes to get names that just won't work in English changed. Japanese developers often go to great lengths to research meaningful names for their characters, but not understanding how differently names can be interpreted in other languages, they can get attached to some really ridiculous ones. The only way I could deter one developer from using "Milla" for the name of a huge, ugly dragon boss was by telling them that most players would associate the name with a supermodel...

  9. Russia-Japan issue by SailorSpork · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa021400a.htm

    Anyone familiar with Japanese history would understand Japanese poking constant fun of the Russians, their neighbors. Russia is a bit of a sore spot to Japan since they are still disputing sovereignty of mineral rich islands that Russia claimed as a results of Japan losing WWII. It doesn't help that Japanese culture has been known as being a bit on the racist and xenophobic side.

    1. Re:Russia-Japan issue by Enderandrew · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In context, he kept suggesting to me that all Americans fit the stereotypes of southern rednecks, and he kept quoting the fact that Americans held slaves, and that some Americans fought a war to protect slavery.

      I countered that we are the only country to arguably fight a war to end slavery. Either way, he was adamant that Swedes never had slaves, when in fact, they did. American slave-owners in the South sometimes allowed their slaves to earn money and buy their way out of slavery as well, so the American slave concept wasn't completely removed from the concept of a serf. Especially given that many serfs lived their entire lives in servitude with no real hope of escaping their situation.

      I also countered that his hatred and stereotyping for all Americans could be construed as racism. He was adamant that he wasn't racist, but rather that all Americans were horrible, evil, Imperialists with no education or respect for human life.

      In talking to other Europeans they tell me that their perception is that America is a very racist country, and that Europeans aren't racist. Which I find odd, because in England I hear a lot of anti-French sentiments, and vice-versa. I was refused service in a restaurant for being American, and racist epithets are common at soccer/football matches in Europe, where as that behavior isn't tolerated in American stadiums.

      My point is that judgment and stereotyping is a very human condition. Sadly, it comes quite naturally, and I think it requires conscious effort to combat racism and cast aside racist judgments.

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    2. Re:Russia-Japan issue by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't respond to ACs normally, especially those that troll, but I should clarify here.

      In England, in an Italian bistro I was told as soon as I walked in with my wife and two friends that there were no tables available for us, despite seeing an almost empty restaurant. We hadn't opened our mouths. We were well dressed. A manager saw what happened, chastised the host and had us seated. But the waitress ignored us all night, and we spent over two hours basically waiting for pasta and drinks while everyone around us was served.

      I spoke to my wife's British family about the incident, and they said Italians, French, etc. can spot Americans often by their shoes or jeans. They know what isn't designer, and what Americans wear.

      In a related note, when I was in Cannes, I needed to use a toilet. Every business I went to told me they had no toilets. I went to a tourist information kiosk, and was told the entire town had no toilets, and I had to walk out of town, and go to the beach. Again, I was dressed nice. I walked into a casino, and was immediately escorted out before I said a word. They wanted to know why I was trying to walk into their casino when I apparently didn't look like a customer they wanted.

      Another tourist center informed me there was a public toilet immediately around the corner, which I knew to be a lie. I said I had just come from there, and they told me to leave the tourist center.

      And this was during the middle of the Cannes film festival when presumably there were tons of Americans present. Maybe I didn't look rich enough, or maybe it was simply that I was American.

      Later that day, I was waiting for a small train holding my two-year old daughter. When the train arrived, someone shoved me quite hard to push me out of the way. I fell over a stone fountain next to me, twisted my knee, and was holding my daughter up so she didn't hit the stone.

      I quite literally cried out in pain, and couldn't get up. No one apologized, or offered to help me up. They just got on the train and ignored me.

      I never intend to go back there again.

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    3. Re:Russia-Japan issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I never intend to go back there again."

      Mission accomplished.

      An European.

    4. Re:Russia-Japan issue by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 2, Interesting
      When talking to other Europeans they tell me that their perception is that America is a very racist country,

      Hey, that's not fair. In the year 2000 the good folk of Alabama even voted 59% in favour of allowing black and white people to marry each other (changing their state constitution)! That's a majority of forward thinking people!

  10. Re:wow by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't we have a some real problems to address, like, oh, we're going to run out of easily available water and energy, and the environment is going to change so much that about a billion people will lose their home over the next 15 years?

    Please hand in your geek card immediately.

    See, this is what serious geeks do. They think about stuff. Lots of stuff, and they think about it a lot. Some of it is trivial, some of it is important, and a surprising amount of it appears to be trivial and turns out the be very important later. They don't decide whether they'll think about something based on its importance; they decide based on whether it's interesting to them at the moment.

    The exact same people who worry about things like the etymology of the names of video game characters are the people who come up with solutions to serious environmental, economic, and technical problems. And the people who whine, "Why are you wasting your time on X when Y is so much more important?!?" ... are the people who will never put enough serious, obsessive thought into anything to make any serious, long-lasting impact of any kind.

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  11. Dhalsim by vivin · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article says that Dhalsim comes from Kerala (a state that's a narrow strip in the southwestern corner of the Indian peninsula), and that his name is a Malayalam word. That's strange, because I'm Malayalee and I'm pretty sure that "Dhalsim" is not a Malayalam word. Hmm...

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  12. Re:Why is this Games and not Idle? by Goaway · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What does that even mean? They are all less formal than a scientific paper, but there is pretty much zero resemblance otherwise.

  13. Re:is it missing this? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anyone know what Starcraft means? Galactic warfare? Space-land-for-battle? It kinda reminds me of Chevy Starcraft, too...

    It's because the game is essentially Warcraft in space.

  14. Zelda Fitzgerald by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When I first heard of "The Legend of Zelda," the first thing I thought of was Zelda Fitzgerald, mostly because there are so few women I've ever heard of who were named Zelda. I assumed that was just a coincidence. It's very nice to discover that it wasn't: "The game's creator, Shigeru Miyamoto, has said that he took the character's name from Zelda Fitzgerald. "[Zelda Fitzgerald] was a famous and beautiful woman from all accounts, and I liked the sound of her name. So I took the liberty of using her name for the very first Zelda title."

    Zelda was famous, yes, and beautiful yes, and for a while the Fitzgeralds were a "glamorous" and lionized couple. She also had a stormy marriage with F. Scot Fitzgerald, and was the fictionalized subject of some of his novels and stories. Zelda was famous for her unconventional behavior, and I've never been able to read between the lines to understand for sure just what this behavior consisted of; was jumping into a fountain in New York just youthful high spirits, or was there more to it than that? Every account talks of her "flirting" with men other than Fitzgerald, and famously saying that she wanted to "kiss" a thousand men; was it just flirting and just kissing? Some of what made her interesting was perhaps the prelude to her mental illness.

    By all accounts, they were a sad, tragic, and unlucky couple.