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US House Democrats Unveil a Health Care Plan

gollum123 sends in this piece from a political blog in the NY Times. Here is the text of the bill in question (PDF). "House Democrats on Friday answered President Obama's call for a sweeping overhaul of the health care system by putting forward [an] 852-page draft bill that would require all Americans to obtain health insurance, force employers to provide benefits or help pay for them, and create a new public insurance program to compete with private insurers — a move that Republicans will bitterly oppose. ... But the chairmen said they still did not know how much the plan would cost, even as they pledged to pay for it by cutting Medicare spending and imposing new, unspecified taxes. The three chairmen described their bill as a starting point in a weeks-long legislative endeavor that they said would dominate Congress for the summer and ultimately involve the full panorama of stakeholders in the health care industry, which accounts for about one-sixth of the nation's economy. ... House Republicans, who have had no involvement in the development of the health legislation so far, quickly denounced the Democrats' proposal as a thinly disguised plan for an eventual government takeover of the health care system. ... The House Democrats' plan is one of three distinct efforts underway on Capitol Hill to draft the health overhaul legislation. In the Senate, both the Finance Committee and the health committee have separate bills in the works, and in recent days those efforts seem to have stumbled."

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  1. Afro-American Racism Against Whites and Asians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    During the election, about 95% of African-Americans voted for Barack Hussein Obama due solely to the color of his skin. See the exit-polling data by CNN.

    Note the voting pattern of Hispanics, Asian-Americans, etc. These non-Black minorities serve as a measurement of African-American racism against non-Blacks. Neither Barack Hussein Obama nor John McCain is a non-Black minority. So, Hispanics and Asian-Americans used only non-racial criteria in selecting a candidate and, hence, serve as the reference by which we detect a racist voting pattern. Only about 65% of Hispanics and Asian-Americans supported Obama. In other words, a maximum of 65% support by any ethnic or racial group for either McCain or Obama is not racist and, hence, is acceptable.

    If African-Americans were not racist, then at most 65% of them would have supported Obama. At that level of support, McCain would have won the presidential race.

    At this point, African-American supremacists (and apologists) claim that African-Americans voted for Obama because he (1) is a member of the Democratic party and (2) supports its ideals. That claim is an outright lie. Look at the exit-polling data for the Democratic primaries. Consider the case of North Carolina. Again, about 95% of African-Americans voted for him and against Hillary Clinton. Both Clinton and Obama are Democrats, and their official political positions on the campaign trail were nearly identical. Yet, 95% of African-Americans voted for Obama and against Hillary Clinton. Why? African-Americans supported Obama due solely to the color of his skin.

    Here is the bottom line. Barack Hussein Obama does not represent mainstream America. He won the election due to the racist voting pattern exhibited by African-Americans.

    African-Americans have established that expressing "racial pride" by voting on the basis of skin color is 100% acceptable. Neither the "Wall Street Journal" nor the "New York Times" complained about this racist behavior. Therefore, in future elections, please feel free to express your racial pride by voting on the basis of skin color. Feel free to vote for the non-Black candidates and against the Black candidates if you are not African-American. You need not defend your actions in any way. Voting on the basis of skin is quite acceptable by the standards of today's moral values.

  2. To my stalker by justinlee37 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Don't you have something better to do with your mod points than systematically modding down all of my posts as "offtopic" or "overrated" even when they're spot-on? What did I ever do to offend you so badly that you're obsessed with harassing me? Seriously, get a life you dimwit.

  3. Re:I'll go ahead and say it by Darkness404 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    1) Build most of the architecture that has lasted through time

    Anyone can do that when you have a large captive population that you can make them do whatever you want them to. It just so happened that most rulers back in time had that, wanted greatness and had slave labor. If you really look at it, private companies have built far more larger and grander structures than the Greeks and Romans did, the thing is that because its modern you can't exactly say it has lasted through time.

    2) Build the infrastructure in most countries

    Again, anyone can do that with a large captive population. In the US at least, a lot of the infrastructure was privately done such as the railroads (although the railroads had to be given to the railroad companies because the government maintained a monopoly on the land unless someone wanted to build a house and live on it out west) I also believe that some of the roads were originally private projects such as various turnpikes.

    3) Manger large services

    Yah, they can manage large services.... However they can't turn a profit without either A) taxing to oblivion or B) raising rates all the time (see the USPS for an example). I'd say that private companies manage large services a ton better and with a lot less waste.

    4) War

    War is pointless and doesn't solve anything. If you were attacked first that is where the point that governments should protect against fraud and force comes in, the force being the invading armies.

    5) Maintain records to a standard that private companies haven't come remotely close to

    ...And these are purposeful how? Sure, the census is nice and all but it really provides little in the way of information and a ton of government waste goes in to doing the census and other government records.

    6) Create a 500 track record of a decrease in criminal activity, which while having infrequent bumps is rapidly declining in all respects

    Again, if they protect against fraud and force that takes all real crimes out of the way.

    7) Create a regulated system of tariffs and tolls which has allowed for free commerce between nearby locals to prosper.

    ...Or you know, not have any tariffs and have you know... really free commerce. Its simple economics, you import from the cheapest and export to who will pay the most. Private companies do that too.

    8) Insure the safety of most consumer products

    Again, that falls under protecting from fraud.

    9) Spread information about agriculture to the point that hunger is essentially abolished and food prices are fairly close to transportation costs.

    ...And you know, things like books, magazines and the internet would never do that on its own?

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