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Canadian Politicians Reverse Course On DMCA

An anonymous reader writes "Michael Geist reports that the two Canadian Ministers responsible for copyright seem to have reversed course on copyright and now appear to oppose a Canadian DMCA. At a government event this week, Industry Minister Tony Clement spoke of how things have changed and of the need for consultation, while Canadian Heritage Minister James Moore emphasized the great potential of the Internet and how older politicians often don't get it."

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  1. Of course older politicans don't get it. by bertoelcon · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Its a world that has changed more growing ever recently, its not hard to blame them for not catching up on everything. Technology is multiplying its growth rapidly.

    However It would be a good idea to keep up on the events that can influence their own reelections and how they are perceived by the public.

    As I understand it (I am American and in Texas, far from Canada) Canada has some really bad setup of restrictions on media already since most of it is imported from the US, as well as some tax on blank media since it COULD be used for illegal copies and such, and I would assume there is more BS like that.

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  2. They didn't necessarily reverse course. by Ragingguppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We have to look at this in the context of whats going on in the Canadian parliament. They are a minority government and they don't want to necessarily do anything stupid that would alienate half the population. So they have decided to not go forward with that legislation. They may decide to go ahead anyways. Right now they are consulting not with the public but with so called most successful CEO's in industry. Which means that they are just going tow the party line and not do anything all that innovative. So put your faith in the snakes that are the Canadian politicians. They are bigger liars then George W Bush.

    1. Re:They didn't necessarily reverse course. by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It may have something to do with all of the people that wrote to their MP's. There are also other good signs, such as a huge display of condemnation regarding a bill giving police the power to get ISP subscriber information without a warrant (this was on the CBC site, check the comments). People seem surprisingle informed and politicians may be taking note. Of course, I could be blindly optimistic.

  3. Re:^_^ by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One sorry TWO delegates is hardly "traction"

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  4. Translation by whisper_jeff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Translation: We didn't expect this strong an outpouring of opposition and we know we already only have a minority government so we're just going to lay low a bit and not piss people off. Sound good?

    And, yes - it does sound good. Stop messing things up! Stop selling our country out! More importantly, stop selling our country out to foreign media corporations!

  5. Could this mean ACTA negotiations are failing? by erroneus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We all generally know what ACTA is and who is largely behind it. It seems increasingly, we see more stories of government bodies moving away from enhanced copyright assault techniques targeting individual users, abusers and consumers. ACTA is still "secret" so we may never hear about what is going on in the negotiations, but could these laws and failures to enact laws be a sign of what may not happen? This could be significant, after all [sarcasm] ACTA is a matter of national security [/sarcasm].

  6. Re:Conservatives doing the right thing? by DirtyCanuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Prime Minister is apologizing for some hack in Alberta who recently made these comments.

    Premier says apology punishment enough after Alberta MLA's comments

    "In his blog, Elniski offered advice to junior high school girls. He suggested that a girl wear a smile when entering a room, and that men don't want to hear about that "treated equal" stuff."

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2009/06/23/edmonton-elniski-stelmach.html?ref=rss

    In response my flamebait is a result of people up on politics who are OUTRAGED over the conservative government. THEY NEED TO GO.

  7. Re:Welcome to slavery by julesh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    DMCA can be used to quickly shut down this leech sites

    The alternative, in countries that don't have a statutary notification scheme, is a court order. These are relatively easy to get, the only disadvantage being they cost money upfront that you may not be able to get back if you can't trace the identity of the leech. While this is a disadvantage, I am of the opinion that "no punishment without judicial oversight" is a good maxim for how stuff like this should work. DMCA notification is too easy to abuse.

  8. Re:Bounced Checks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Which is a shame, as it should be 'checks and balances' not 'bounced checks'.

  9. Re:Welcome to slavery by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    DCMA is a four-letter word, and that does seem to effect a lot of people's thinking. There are definitely some very good provisions in the package. Others, not so good.

    I think everyone agrees that the takedown system is a winner, for everyone involved. ISP's have been a bit easy to scare into believing the takedowns and not bothering to check if they're for real, but it seems that they're calming down now. I would be perfectly happy to see a similar provision in Canadian law.

    On the other hand, there's the reverse-engineering issue. This is clearly a very bad idea, and from what I can see, unenforceable. Had this section been left out, I think everyone would consider DCMA as generally positive, but instead it generates massive hate. Sad really.

    Maury

  10. Re:Conservatives doing the right thing? by twidarkling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Keep in mind, "left-leaning" is also a relative term. From what I can tell, our Conservatives are about as left as Obama, and maybe a bit further. Now that the Reform party's gone, there furthest-right party is arguably as left as the "Leftist" President.

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  11. Majority vs Minority rule by Fractal+Dice · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A pleasant side effect of Canada fractured, regionalized politics and it's inability to elect a majority government any more is that as soon as someone tries to cash in a political favor, it's ammunition the opposition parties (plural!) can use to threaten an election and alter the balance of power. There's an actual incentive to call out the ruling party on unpopular special-interest gimmies! And since parties receive a few pennies a year of funding for every vote they get, every voter matters.

    Canada consistently gets better, more innovative, progressive and balanced policies during minority governments despite how much they all whine that they can't get anything done without a majority.