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Augmented Reality Shaping the Future of Games

Slatterz writes "Microsoft's Natal can recognize a player's skeletal structure, and also perform some sophisticated translation of body physics into in-game movement. As a control mechanism this is fascinating, but the next step is to merge the game graphics with the real world. Now, basic examples of augmented reality (AR) are being shown using a mobile phone, unlike previous demos which have involved walking around with a large backpack strapped to your body. A game titled Arhrrrr blends live-action video overlaid with game graphics. The processing is taken care of by Nvidia's new Tegra platform, while the game's 'maps' are generated by pointing the phone's camera (in this case 5MP) at a 2D drawing/printout lying on a table. The end result is a 3D world which seems to spring forth in real time, with buildings popping up as players move around the game 'map.' This story shows two other interesting videos demonstrating AR, including the ability to add real-life objects into the virtual game world and have the gameplay respond and react accordingly."

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  1. Ready? by Spyware23 · · Score: 2, Informative

    As far as I know, Natal is still vaporware with some sexy CGI and PR. The live demonstration seemed crude when compared to the promising, albeit slightly ambitious CGI-movies.

    I realize that the technology to enable such a contraption as Natal are already available, but I doubt that Microsoft is ready to develop for such a system, and I also doubt that most of Xbox's fanbase is ready for this change in how people play games. Not sure if Microsoft should be betting all it's money on Natal.

    1. Re:Ready? by rhathar · · Score: 2, Funny

      Science Fiction has lied to us - where's our VR with sex?

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    2. Re:Ready? by centuren · · Score: 2, Funny

      Science Fiction has lied to us - where's our VR with sex?

      The scientists who were assigned to work on that project haven't been heard from for years now.

    3. Re:Ready? by Xest · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well Microsoft have already shipped out 1000 dev kits to 3rd party developers so the technology is clearly ready to develop with.

      I've not seen any evidence of CGI yet, there seems little reason to think what's shown isn't real, certainly the Milo demo was pre-scripted of course because AI isn't that advanced but certainly there's no reason it wasn't responding to the given inputs via Natal as was suggested. Similar if you have a look on YouTube there's a few videos of various people using the system at E3. It's not as if the technology that comprises Natal is even all that groundbreaking, it's just the fact they've used all these bits of technology (facial recognition, depth sensing etc.) in conjunction with each other to produce something capable of a lot more. We've seen things like the Eyetoy and Live vision cam, Natal is different only in that it adds depth sensing to the equation to make it a lot more useful so again although it looks impression there's nothing about it theoretically that suggests there is any reason Microsoft would need to fake demos of it.

      I've said it before, I still think it's a way off, a good 18 months to two years away if not only because the 3rd party developers only got dev kits a month ago and they need at least that time to produce an AAA title that will make use of it.

      Regarding Microsoft putting all their money on Natal, I don't think they are, at very least it just augments what's already there. There's no reason you couldn't play Ghost Recon as normal but then use hand signals to command your ghost and point at where they should take cover, or physically move to dodge incoming projectiles for example.

      It doesn't have to be used as a full blown setup where the old is eliminated altogether somewhat like with the Wii but again, even that had the classic controllers produced for it and even the Wiimotes could be used in a similar fashion to a classic controller if really need be.

  2. AR Games are fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm playing an Augmented Reality game right now. I'm driving my car, with my laptop on my lap, and my cellphone tethered to my machine. Uh oh, here comes another playe

    1. Re:AR Games are fun by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      AR has excellent collision detection.

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  3. Augmented Reality by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This tech has huge potential. Just yesterday I was watching the video for the Gizmondo 'Catapult' Game. Very cool. I've been looking at virtual reality glasses, and the Vuzix VR920 is a stereoscopic headset that has 3d compatibility with some games as well as head tracking. Attach a couple of webcams and connect it to a portable computer and you can walk around viewing an augmented version of reality, such as having a Terminator-style red overlay with scrolling code and primitive object recognition as shown here. You'd look like a complete dork walking around with it in public, but it's neat tech nonetheless.

    A co-worker and I were discussing how you could take a normal laser tag arena, paint all of the walls with patterns that can be recognised by intelligent systems, and combined with headsets you could have an augmented reality laser tag. In one round everything could be decorated in a futuristic theme with metal panelling, neon lights, another could be stone castle walls or a dusty Wild West theme. If the players are wearing patterned jumpsuits, you could overlay them with different skins so they appear to you as terrorists, zombies, whatever you want. You would need some pretty good tracking to calculate location so that people don't run into walls that appear further away and are able to shoot eachother with accuracy, but if implemented well it could be awesome.

    /geekout

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    1. Re:Augmented Reality by vertinox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are some tech demos out on youtube (here and here) that have AR running at 10fps on an iPhone.

      Combined with gaming the potential is huge.

      Imagine a D&D table top where the characters are alive or even augmented reality chess.

      And yeah... I had thought about an FPS laser tag game way back when as well. Hopefully we'll see that soon.

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  4. Lies And Non-News by sexconker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microsoft's Natal can recognize a player's skeletal structure

    No it can't. It identifies a few joints.

    and also perform some sophisticated translation of body physics into in-game movement.

    If by sophisticated, you mean "primitive", sure.

    As a control mechanism this is fascinating,

    Not really, we've had this shit for ages, and it's never really taken off outside of fixed machines (arcades, real sports, etc.)

    but the next step is to merge the game graphics with the real world.

    I'd say the next step is launching the damned thing.

    Now, basic examples of augmented reality (AR) are being shown using a mobile phone, unlike previous demos which have involved walking around with a large backpack strapped to your body.

    And...?

    A game titled Arhrrrr blends live-action video overlaid with game graphics. The processing is taken care of by Nvidia's new Tegra platform,

    Ah, so this is just a slashvertisement for Tegra. Tegra is a fucking dog turd.

    while the game's 'maps' are generated by pointing the phone's camera (in this case 5MP) at a 2D drawing/printout lying on a table.

    So it takes a picture of a map and makes a ... map?

    The end result is a 3D world which seems to spring forth in real time, with buildings popping up as players move around the game 'map.'

    I've seen this before and it was nothing but a poorly executed gimmick.

    This story shows two other interesting videos demonstrating AR, including the ability to add real-life objects into the virtual game world and have the gameplay respond and react accordingly.

    Again, nothing new. We've had "take a pic and put it in the game" shit for ages. It's never anything more than a gimmick. When you let users make the content, it's just crappy designs with dicks everywhere. When you have companies make the content, it's all just fucking advertising.

    Seems to me people play games to get away from a lot of the bullshit in the real world.

    1. Re:Lies And Non-News by tixxit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      while the game's 'maps' are generated by pointing the phone's camera (in this case 5MP) at a 2D drawing/printout lying on a table.

      So it takes a picture of a map and makes a ... map?

      The end result is a 3D world which seems to spring forth in real time, with buildings popping up as players move around the game 'map.'

      I've seen this before and it was nothing but a poorly executed gimmick.

      You are seriously underestimating this. Technically, it would appear it recognizes a 2d image in 3d space, positions and orients it in that 3d space and then can displays some 3D model/animation associated with that picture. Yeah, not a technical miracle, but the biggest marvel is not what it does, but the fact it does it cheaply (processing power) and does it well.

      I think their goal is to bring AR to the masses. It has a lot of applications, certainly outside of games. Did you watch the demo of them looking at the newspaper? Enhancing printed media is definitely a cool application. Imagine being able to hold your iPhone over your car manual and watch as a 3D diagram of a transmission explodes and reassembles itself. And the killer part of this is that it is running on a chip designed for phones; in other words, this is NOT one of those techs that you probably won't ever see in the real world. The demo shows it running well on a chip designed for the smart phones of TODAY. It will only take one killer app (probably not a game) and "AR" could be on millions of people's phones within a week.

    2. Re:Lies And Non-News by sexconker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why point a device at a manual and watch the diagram? Why not watch the diagram on the device?

      The tech is NOWHERE near being able to take a random 3D diagram to explode, nor will it ever be.
      There is information lost in the 2D diagram.

      If we're making diagrams with extra information for the reader (such as a different angle, or a colored height map or occlusion info), why not just make the fucking 3D diagram itself?

      It's a neat gimmick, but it's just that. They looked at a newspaper and got... a dancing goober? A video? Why the fuck wouldn't I just go to the content directly if I had access to it?

      Device points at thing.
      Device recognizes thing.
      Device checks database for content for thing.
      Device populates content.
      No content? Add gremlin for lols.

      That's all the newspaper demo was.
      I'd fucking just go straight to the content and skip the physical newspaper, and the dedicated device if possible.

      It's neat, but it's a gimmick.
      This is all just a slashvertisement for Tegra.

  5. Rainbow's End - Vinge by religious+freak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Vinge is a damn genius. If you haven't read it yet, check out Rainbow's End. For my book tastes, personally, it was a bit on the touchy-feely side (but I really don't like character development at all - I'm in the very small minority), but the science and concepts are really second to none.

    How soon until we see these augmented reality games embedded in our contact lenses and we wear "smart" clothing on a regular basis? I'm just waiting for the self-driving cars!

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  6. These guys are totally missing the better idea... by hort_wort · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Augmented porn! Walk into a bar, every person in the place is absolutely stunning! Plus you could have NPCs walking around. Never had a gorgeous babe / hunk living across the street? Now you can! I sense a new movie coming on: "How Shallow Hal Got His Groove Back"