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DNA Suggests Three Basic Human Groups

Death Metal writes "All of Earth's people, according to a new analysis of the genomes of 53 populations, fall into just three genetic groups. They are the products of the first and most important journey our species made — the walk out of Africa about 70,000 years ago by a small fraction of ancestral Homo sapiens."

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  1. You mean the three sons of Noah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Three Sons of Noah are supposed to be the ancestors of us all.

    1. Re:You mean the three sons of Noah? by youngone · · Score: 5, Funny

      Come on guys, this is totally wrong. There are really 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.

  2. Article asserts three things; none yet proven true by Raindance · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As far as I can tell, this story attempts to make three points:

    1. Human genomes tend to cluster into three groups: african, eurasian, and east asian.

    2. We expected that the genomes of different ethnic groups would be very different. They aren't.

    3. Neutral drift is the major story in how ethic groups' genomes differ.

    This pretty much follows the contours of the current orthodoxy in population genetics (with certain distinct exceptions).

    So are these three points meaningfully true?

    1. Human genomes tend to cluster into three groups: african, eurasian, and east asian.

    Generally speaking they /do/ cluster this way. Of course, you can make room for as few or as many clusters as you want-- if it was two, it'd be african/everything else. Three, african/eurasian/east asian. Four, perhaps african/eurasian/east asian/naitive american. Five, perhaps west african/east african/eurasian/east asian/naitive american. From what I've read, the most elegant statistical clusters arise when you allow for four groups (splitting native americans off from east asians). Of course, this clustering gets more complex when you consider admixture populations (e.g., the majority of south america and mexico).

    2. We expected that the genomes of different ethnic groups would be very different. They aren't.

    It's hard to say this is true or false yet, because we simply don't know how functionally significant these differences are. Two genomes may look very similar, yet be very different in many very significant ways.

    3. Neutral drift is the major story in how ethic groups' genomes differ.

    This is code for a very contentious question-- are ethnic differences merely skin-deep? The fact is, we don't know yet. There's a lot of research that points to yes; there's a lot of research that points to no. The answer to this is undoubtedly going to turn out to be: yes and no, depending on the context and the threshold you look at.

  3. I don't think so by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unless one of Noah's sons was black, one was white, and one was east-asian, this is pretty much not possible.

    1. Re:I don't think so by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unless one of Noah's sons was black, one was white, and one was east-asian, this is pretty much not possible.

      So you're saying we probably all come from the Village People?

    2. Re:I don't think so by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well a little further up I did see someone saying we came from a lot of different homos having sex.

    3. Re:I don't think so by Reziac · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Inbreeding doesn't *cause* genetic issues. It merely concentrates and thereby exposes those that are already present in a given gene pool, by increasing the chance of being homozygous for any given trait -- good OR bad.

      --
      ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
    4. Re:I don't think so by rhyder128k · · Score: 5, Funny

      He was the only human who ever lived a perfect life and never did anything wrong in thought and deed.

      I'm sick of every thread being taken over by an Apple fanatic. How about the Apple III? Explain that.

      --
      Michael Reed, freelance tech writer.
  4. Read the Bible. by mosb1000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The advice and truths given in the Bible are credible because they mirror the real personal stories and events that happen in the world around us. Many myths and religions try to do the same, and they get some things right, but there is always the element of mysticism that has been injected by people trying to gain personal advantage. I know that many "Christians" have tried to do this too (most notably the catholic church and their instance that only the Pope can talk to God, which is in direct contradiction to the primary message of pretty much every book of the Bible, they also asserted in the past that only a properly educated person should be allowed to read the Bible), but such lies are easily uncovered by even a cursory independent look at the Bible.

    There is nowhere in the bible where it says giving sacrifices will bring a good harvest (though it does say that you should make sacrifices to atone for your sins and celebrate God), or that your God-given leader will bring you to God (though it does say that Jesus loves you and has opened they way for you). It also doesn't say that you can get to heaven through your own personal works (though it does talk about the importance bearing good fruit).

    There are a number of other elements to most religions which the Bible lacks, but the main difference is that most religious are designed to promote cohesion in society by establishing a theological basis for a hierarchal leadership structure (much the same way modern economics, philosophy and political science have established a theoretical basis for the same kind of structure). The Bible seeks to promote cohesion by explaining the benefits of good social behavior and uncovering the lies of society (society tries to tell us that bad behaviors like promiscuity, deceitfulness, idolatry and hedonism will make us happy, while in truth those behaviors separate us from the life-giving society we are a part of and will only lead to isolation and tragedy).

    Please do not think that the behavior of most people who call themselves Christians is indicative of the content of the Bible. Many people use the Church as a social club to further their own worldly goals. Instead, read the Bible (it's not much longer than Atlas Shrugged, which you should also read BTW) with an open mind and see whether or not you agree that it is a better way to go about living.