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Emigrating To a Freer Country?

puroresu writes "I currently reside in the UK. In recent years I've seen privacy, free expression and civil liberties steadily eroded, and I can't see anything changing for the better any time soon. With people being banned from the UK for expressing (admittedly reprehensible) opinions, the continuing efforts to implement mandatory ID cards and the prospect of a Conservative government in the near future, I'm seriously considering emigrating to a less restrictive country. Which countries would you recommend in terms of freedom and privacy? Distance is not an issue, though a reasonable level of stability and provision of public services would be a bonus."

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  1. I suggest Iran by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I can type a comment

  2. If stability is only a "plus", then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Somalia?

  3. Not the U.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Civil War is brewing. Should be a whole lot of fun with nukes, Raptors and Abrams on the battlefield.

  4. Try North Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I hear they're doing just great.

  5. Don't come to the U.S. by xednieht · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    We have the Department of Homeland Stupidity (English for Gestapo). We have more Czar's than Soviet Russia. You can't wipe your ass without Supreme Court Approval, and our government taxes the poor to ensure the welfare of the rich.

    These days it seems like the world is upside down, so I would look to countries that claim to be communist.

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    Hope is the currency of fools
  6. Re:What languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    First of all, you sound like a pompous ass.

    Second of all, What the fuck is your problem?

    Of course this guy speaks English. That's why he wrote the question in fucking English and is from England.

    What's next for you, Watson? Are you going to ask Barack Obama if he is a nigger?

    The next time you want to go on a self righteous tirade why don't you do us all a favour and shut the fuck up.

  7. I'd recommend Australia or Canada...NOT the U.S. by PortHaven · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Please...whatever you do. DO NOT move to the U.S.

    We have enough stinkin' liberals here trying to take everyone's rights away and blaming it always on the conservatives. We don't need another liberal like you, who will want to eliminate our right to bear arms, capitalism, and pillars of America's foundation.

    Frankly, state migration is a big part of the problem in America. It started with the mass exodus of New England and the northeast. They moved to California and Florida. They took two states that more closely resembled Texas and turned them into bastions of liberal thought. In the case of California, these migrants from the northeast passed socialism, liberal ideals, and have bankrupted California. Creating another exodus to states like Nevada, & Colorado. They began passing similar laws and legislation. Always trying to build their liberal utopia, and in the process taking away everyone's rights and heaping upon themselves a bureaucratic nightmare of regulations and restrictions,

    Now these same liberals are seeking new states to destroy such as Montana, Nebraska and Texas. When are you guys going to figure out that the problem is YOU!!!!

    (Sometimes I wish there were no conservatives, than the liberals would have no excuse, no one to blame but themselves.)

  8. New Zealand of course by dinther · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    New Zealand, the last Western bastion without a socialist government. (Well... in name anyway) We just had elections and kicked out the socialists while even the USA has embraced socialism/communism/totalitarianism under Obama. Damn, even the Aussies got damn socialist government.

    Unfortunately we do have a democracy (Force by numbers) which unfortunately doesn't equate to freedom which is what you desire. The best country for you currently would be New Zealand but if the USA once day remembers what it's true foundations are and starts adhering to her constitution then the USA has got to be the best place for any freedom loving person.

  9. Re:New Zealand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Although I do find that having at least two public service adverts every commercial break, telling you how to drive or feed your baby, incredibly annoying.

    Anyway, NZ sure doesn't have the police state laws that UK seems to have but the political system is such that the Government can pretty much legislate how they want (no upper house, no entrenched bill of rights, no entrenched human rights etc) - so a paranoid executive could quickly lead the country down the UK's path.
    There have been many abuses of power by the NZ government (eg the 'clyde dam affair' where the govt used legislation to get its way and build a dam, after the courts supported an appeal against it), most recently
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_foreshore_and_seabed_controversy
    although this was shrouded in knee-jerk bullshit, the simple fact was that once again the govt didn't like a court decision so passed legislation to circumvent it.
    Democratic principles anyone? Rule of law?
    Just because NZ touts itself as a forward thinking, liberal wonderland, and the rest of the world basically has no idea where it even is, doesn't mean it's 'free'.

  10. Re:New Zealand by myowntrueself · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    New Zealand suffers from small town mentality.

    Its very rural, even the cities are really just very large 'small country towns'.

    The shops are pretty limited in what they stock, theres very little variety in the stores.

    The people are slack, lazy and highly disorganised.

    NZ businesses are, by and large, extremely poorly run and the management style leaves a LOT to be desired.

    Theres a saying here "She'll be right mate"

    It means "Don't worry about something that appears to be almost a disaster, it'll be ok"

    Usually when you hear a kiwi say this phrase DUCK because something is about to explode.

    I'm even considering going to the UK.

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    In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
  11. Re:What languages? by dontmakemethink · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Screw the weather, 12 states have territory north of the southernmost point in Canada, including California, and I was in southwest Alberta for 2" of snow earlier this month...

    The reason to come to Canada is to be free of the fear-mongering media of the US. Seriously, spend a month outside the US, see what's really going on, watch how it's reported, and you'll both laugh and puke over how it's reported in the US.

    For starters, fire these strings into your favorite search engine:
    "fox news bullshit"
    "cnn news bullshit"

    Compare those results with:
    "cbc news bullshit"
    "bbc news bullshit"
    (and those are possibly the most bullshit of the G8 outside the US)

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    War as we knew it was obsolete
    Nothing could beat complete denial
    - Emily Haines
  12. Re:Learn a language! by tsstahl · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    if you do move to an English speaking country you will still have to learn new vocabulary and, if your job involves written reports, how to spell. Failure to do so will provide you colleagues with many hours of amusement....

    Screw them! They'll learn to do it my way, or else!

    What? I can't bring Yankee imperialism with me?

  13. Re:List of Countries by ixer · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Don't ya just love how rightwing assholes can NEVER EVER say ANYTHING that even remotely resembles the TRUTH?
    It's WHY conservatives took over America, overthrew the constitution, and installed Bush as dictator.
    Rightwing conservatives in America are a joke, and traitors, and seditionists, and liars, and phony, and stupid to boot.

  14. Re:What languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    The crime rate is directly related to the presence of niggers.

  15. Please -- STAY THERE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    "I currently reside in the UK. In recent years I've seen privacy, free expression and civil liberties steadily eroded, and I can't see anything changing for the better any time soon. With people being banned from the UK for expressing (admittedly reprehensible) opinions, the continuing efforts to implement mandatory ID cards and the prospect of a Conservative government in the near future, I'm seriously considering emigrating to a less restrictive country. Which countries would you recommend in terms of freedom and privacy? Distance is not an issue, though a reasonable level of stability and provision of public services would be a bonus."

    Well, since you don't seem to like Michael Savage (who is bold enough to speak the truth) and since you seem to be blaming an upcoming conservative government for all of the problems created by the past and current liberal governments, you're obviously have a severe case of rectal-cranial inversion, so do the world a favor and do NOT spread your disease to the rest of the world -- just stay where you are. We have a big enough problem with liberal idiots here in the US -- please don't add to the problem.

    And to all the liberals that have just gotten their hemp thongs in a bunch, how's all the "hope" and "change" working out for you?