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Hackable In-Car GPS Unit?

gigne writes "I'm in the market for a new, in-car GPS/sat nav. I am preferably looking for one that has live, up-to-date traffic information and route planning that doesn't make you want to cry. I'm not quite dumb enough to drive off a cliff, but something that doesn't even try and lead me to watery doom is preferable. The only thing I absolutely must have is the ability to hack it. It would be preferable if it ran GNU/Linux, but given a convincing argument, I would be swayed to another OS. Without wanting the Moon on a stick, what is the best device that would offer a decent modding community and a good feature set?"

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  1. Proprietary Issues by juanergie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Companies comercializing GPS devices are in the business of making money. I am inclined to believe you would run into proprietary and legal stuff should you plan to hack or reverse-engineer the device. Maybe some provide an API?

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    1. Re:Proprietary Issues by loufoque · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is perfectly legal to do whatever you fucking want with an electronic device you own, at least in most countries.

    2. Re:Proprietary Issues by westlake · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is perfectly legal to do whatever you fucking want with an electronic device you own, at least in most countries.

      Never without qualifications. For example:

      Microwave radiation.
      Basic electrical safety.
      Eavesdropping on protected frequencies. {Cell phones][Radar]
      RFI

      There is surely the potential for civil liability:

      Your device catches fire and incinerates your cousin's $56,000 daysailer.
      You taser-shock your girl friend.
      Your faulty navigational display sends your mother-in-law off a cliff.

         

    3. Re:Proprietary Issues by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, it is illegal to eavesdrop on protected frequencies. But it is not illegal to modify a radio set to do so.

      You can do whatever you want with an electronic device you own. But if you do something illegal with said modified device, you'll get in trouble for doing the illegal thing. Not for modifying the device.

      As it should be.

  2. Re:Lots of potential by nsaspook · · Score: 3, Insightful
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  3. Pioneer AVICs... by FourG · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's a healthy hacking community for Pioneer AVIC in-dash units (http://www.avic411.com/). The current generation (F-series) is basically a Mio Windows CE 5.0 Navi that runs iGo 8.0 and interfaces to an AV board for sound out. It uses a Parrot Bluetooth for the handsfree but it's not a full BT stack so no A2DP. The interface Pioneer had an external software house design has been rather bemoaned for some frustrating "quirks", so there's a lot of motivation to hack the units at the moment. There is a way to launch external apps from the iGo script interface now and there's even an effort to write a new interface from scratch that launches from the SD slot (sort of like MioPocket for some of the PNAs). There may also be a way to use SDIO 802.11b/g wireless cards with the units that was borrowed from gpspassion.com.

    Pioneer will be releasing a new series of in-dash units soon (X series) and a 3.0 firmware release for the F-series that apparently removes the ability to use the backdoor method many of us use to hack the unit, so if you do decide to get one make sure it's only got the 2.0 firmware on it.

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  4. I think you've lost the point by symbolset · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, you can screw around hacking GPS units. The question is, why do that instead of buying an ultramobile PC with GPS and navigation software?

    Talk about missing the point...

    You know, I think your attitude is the problem with consumer electronics today. They give you GPS with maps and you think "hey! That's cool! Now I can get navigation!" Some time later they come out with turn by turn spoken directions, and you're thrilled with that too. And then you come here on slashdot and argue against the open products, because they might be hard for you to use, or people might put them to uses the manufacturer had not intended.

    Look: people are clever. Give them neat gear with open interfaces and they'll put it to creative uses the manufacturers had never considered - and publish the source code for anyone to use. If the features are interesting, useful and most importantly, popular, they'll wind up in the next generation of the manufacturer's products and you will benefit. It's like having a half billion geeks working for free.

    Fortunately for you and for the rest of us, most manufacturers have figured out that they don't have the corner on creativity and so they make open, or "hackable" interfaces that allow us to bend these devices to unintended uses that they can then adopt in your next generation product.

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