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Firefox 3.5 Reviewed; Draws Praise For HTML5, Speed

johndmartiniii writes "Farhad Manjoo has a review of Firefox 3.5 at Slate.com this week. From the article: 'Lately I've been worried about Firefox. Ever since its debut in 2004, the open-source Web browser has won acclaim for its speed, stability, and customizability. It eventually captured nearly a quarter of the market, an astonishing achievement for a project run by a nonprofit foundation. But recently Firefox seemed to go soft.' The worried tone in the beginning of the review gives way to excitement over the HTML5 features being implemented, saying that thus far Firefox 3.5 'offers the best implementation of the standard — and because it's the second-most-popular Web browser in the world, the new release is sure to prompt Web designers to create pages tailored to the Web's new language.'" The final version could be here at any time; Firefox 3.5 is still shown as a release candidate at Mozilla's home page. Update: 06/30 15:31 GMT by T : No longer marked as RC; the Firefox upgrade page now says 3.5 has arrived.

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  1. As usual with new Firefox releases... by Daetrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The main thing i want to know is if they've (finally) fixed the memory issues yet. Namely, if i keep a lot of tabs open for awhile (yes, i know, bad habit) and then close those tabs, will Firefox free up the memory (frequently over a gig of it) without requiring me to shut it down and restart it?

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    1. Re:As usual with new Firefox releases... by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      if i keep a lot of tabs open for awhile (yes, i know, bad habit)

      This is a bad habit? I've always just thought of it as a convenient way to browse.

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    2. Re:As usual with new Firefox releases... by fredrik70 · · Score: 5, Informative

      according to this test is seems quite alright...

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    3. Re:As usual with new Firefox releases... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      It does indeed. On my Linux box I've created a custom version of Firefox that does just that, but on Windows this simply isn't possible. I've tried copying and pasting code from my Linux copy into the Windows DLL's using a hex editor but this hasn't worked and has broken my Firefox installation - Windows shittyness at it's finest!

    4. Re:As usual with new Firefox releases... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1.5GB looks like much, but it's only 12.5MB per tab. Considering that the browser has to keep the state and source data of every page, it doesn't seem excessive. Are you sure that the pages aren't running scripts which accumulate stale data over the course of days and weeks, because the programmers never expected their scripts to run for that long and didn't include any cleanup code, because that's usually handled by the browser when you leave the page or close the tab (which you never do)?

    5. Re:As usual with new Firefox releases... by johnlcallaway · · Score: 5, Informative

      Have you tried to use bookmarks to keep track of your sites instead of using tabs....

      Ok .. all joking aside....

      A feature I stumbled on in firefox is the ability to open all bookmarks in a folder. So I've arranged my bookmarks into daily/weekly/monthly folders based on topics. Then I middle click the folder and all the pages open up. I arrange the pages that usually open first at the top of the folder, and those that take longer at the bottom. It only takes a few seconds before I start seeing pages, and by the time I'm done with the first one, the rest are open.

      Then I just close them as I'm done with them.

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  2. What about Slashdot? by macbeth66 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the new release is sure to prompt Web designers to create pages tailored to the Web's new language

    Although, I would be happy if Slashdot would work right with the existing standards.

  3. Re:HTML 5 and Javascript by ikefox · · Score: 5, Informative

    I suggest you take a look at Kroc Camen's "Video for Everybody" HTML5 video element implementation. Not a hint of Javascript is necessary to implement it, and it's very cross-platform. It can play back in OGG, Flash, Quicktime (even on the iPhone), WMA, or alternatively provide a download link. http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody

  4. Actually, REAL geeks ... by SpooForBrains · · Score: 5, Funny
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  5. And more than that! by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Firefox 3.5, the bard class has been totally revised, and you no longer need to "intuit direction" to browse the web.

  6. Re:Softpedia claims to have it already by pdboddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do not download FF from anywhere except the main FF site. :P And FF3.5 is up now for download. Pretty snappy, speed-wise. :)

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  7. Competition by koreaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one who doesn't see the multiplicity of real competition as a threat, but rather as the greatest success of the Mozilla Foundation? Had it not been for Firefox, Opera would still cost money, Google Chrome wouldn't exist, a few people who paid way too much for their computers would be running Safari, and most (l)users would be stuck with the latest version of IE -- IE6. Thank you, Firefox, for reigniting the browser wars, and here's hoping that this time around the wars will be fought with functionality, stability, security, and speed, rather than with a new incompatible extension to JavaScript every week.

  8. Isn't this a little overkill? by Xaedalus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please excuse me for being a paltry light user of Firefox... but aren't you an outlier in this particular case? The most tabs I ever have open on Firefox is three, maybe four. IMHO, you're a power user and while your comments are insightful, I have to wonder whether or not your insights are of relevance to the average user of Firefox? I'm all for improvement, but if the improvement is only noticeable when you've got 30+tabs open a day and are burning through close to a gig of RAM to keep everything operating... then what good is the improvement to the average user?

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  9. Re:no sense of humor today, mods? by clickclickdrone · · Score: 5, Funny

    >I squirted milk out my nose when I read that.
    Had you been drinking milk at the time or are you just really wierd?

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