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The Hysteria of the Cyber-Warriors

Willfro sends in a piece by Evgeny Morozov at the Boston Review about the hyperbole and the reality of "cyber war." Quoting: "At the end of May, President Obama called cyber-security 'one of the most serious economic and national security challenges we face as a nation.' His words echo a flurry of gloomy think-tank reports. Unfortunately, these reports are usually richer in vivid metaphor — with fears of 'digital Pearl Harbors' and 'cyber-Katrinas' — than in factual foundation. So why is there so much concern about 'cyber-terrorism?' Answering a question with a question: who frames the debate? Much of the data are gathered by ultra-secretive government agencies — which need to justify their own existence — and cyber-security companies — which derive commercial benefits from popular anxiety. Journalists do not help. Gloomy scenarios and speculations about cyber-Armaggedon draw attention, even if they are relatively short on facts."

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  1. Ignorance Leads to Fear Leads to Profit by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, these reports are usually richer in vivid metaphor -- with fears of 'digital Pearl Harbors' and 'cyber-Katrinas' -- than in factual foundation. So why is there so much concern about 'cyber-terrorism?'

    Because no one fully understands it. And not understanding something can easily lead to fear. And those standing to make money off that fear (journalists, contractors, agencies) are unashamed to exploit it.

    I'm a computer scientist and I don't even understand or know about every potential vulnerability. It's simply too complex ... and that's easy to turn into fear when you're talking to the people who are in charge of protecting us from threats. And the potential mitigation techniques are another endless myriad of complex software/hardware. All I can say is that it is highly unlikely that a Live Free or Die Hard 'fire-sale' scenario will happen. I can't in good conscious tell you it's impossible. I can tell you that the probability of it happening within a year would most certainly be dealt with in multi-digit negative powers of ten. Then there's the possibility of lesser attacks which are highly probable but I feel that the cost-risk ratio is all messed up. Again, I believe this is due to ignorance.

    You get into a weird sort of emperors-new-clothes kind of situation when the only people who understand your problems are also the ones trying to sell you a solution. And they're just not being openly honest nor realistic with you.

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    1. Re:Ignorance Leads to Fear Leads to Profit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree and I would add the simple fact of life that politicians love to BS and love to be seen as though they are "with it", whatever "it" happens to be at the time. Same thing over here in the UK, all the policticians are using the prefix "cyber" on every bloody thing they can, without really thinking about it. Old gits, with about 5 years of working life left, before they bugger off to some highly paid consultant job, bandying "cyber" about like so much confetti. Just to make it seem like they understand this wonderful tech, which they love trying to take credit for putting in place!

      Like most politics, all smoke and mirrors. Make the public think they getting something they asked for, make it seem like the gov is in control, while they have no more clue about the state of things than the local knitting circle!

    2. Re:Ignorance Leads to Fear Leads to Profit by FriendlyLurker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not to mention that in the process of securing against the "cyber-terrorism" bogeyman, an big added benefit for ruling elites will be removing net anonymity and related speech in the name of national security, bringing all those blogs and uncontrollable information channels under heel in a more hierarchical system - or at least more accountable to an "authorized views", type system - ("Take down that anti-war protest site and uncensored video footage - preempt information warfare against our war, sir") and of course, only authorized p2p channels and protocols allowed in this future we are manufacturing, thanks.

    3. Re:Ignorance Leads to Fear Leads to Profit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I'm a computer scientist and I don't even understand or know about every potential vulnerability. It's simply too complex"

      And yet you're claiming that "the probability of it happening within a year would most certainly be dealt with in multi-digit negative powers of ten."

      Not sure where you're getting your confidence from. You've basically just said that these complex systems are extremely vulnerable. Meaning, even you can't be clear to what extent these vulnerabilities can be used to cause damage.

    4. Re:Ignorance Leads to Fear Leads to Profit by johnsonav · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Because no one fully understands it. And not understanding something can easily lead to fear.

      Understanding plays a large part. But, it's also about an individual's lack of control. Most everyone depends upon the network and computer infrastructure of our world to meet their basic, day-to-day needs. Almost all of that infrastructure is out of their individual control. Their actions have no direct relationship to how likely they are to be affected by any "cyber"-attack.

      People don't get this batty about hurricanes or even conventional terrorist attacks (like 9/11); not everyone is equally likely to experience such an event, and there are actions one can take to minimize their risk. Things like cyber-attacks and virulent diseases provoke more fear because they are seemingly harder to mitigate by individual action, and are seen as more equal-opportunity.

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  3. More worried about SPAM by Kintanon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of the 63 MILLION emails we've processed for our clients (About 60 companies run through our spam filter) 58 million of them are blocked as SPAM.
    So only 1/12th of the email traffic we see is legit. One of our clients has its own spam filter because they process that much email all by themselves and they have closer to a 1/20 legit traffic.
    SPAM is a bigger threat to the network than some hypothetical cyber-terrorist.

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  4. The post-nuclear war threat by MikeRT · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The US no longer has to worry about nuclear war or even conventional war because we have the means of "winning" a nuclear war and can easily crush any country in a conventional war except, perhaps, the PRC. Even the European Union would not likely hold out against us in a conventional war. Our military knows that, and the majority of the world knows that. We are in a period of relative peace and stability, a Pax Americana. Thus we have to manufacture existential threats to keep the momentum going.

    Going back to that post about government IT spending, I'd like to point out something about the military industrial complex that many don't realize. Just keeping the US military ready to go as a kick ass self-defense force with modest offensive capabilities is expensive. There is plenty of money to go around, and you're much more likely to see the agencies that now have to justify their existence like DHS getting in on this bandwagon than the DoD. For the traditional apparatus, it's always business as usual keeping the basic defense of US sovereignty going. For the rest, like DHS which has to find a new enemy under every bush, they have a lot of good reasons to be afraid.

    1. Re:The post-nuclear war threat by gtall · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The U.S. no longer has to worry about nuclear war? Probably. However, those nice N. Koreans are about as well adjusted as a squirrel after his third cup of coffee. Want to bet that even knowing full well they'd get annihilated, they wouldn't lob one in our direction if they started something they couldn't win? How about Al Qaeda and those gentle Islamic fanatics. Care to guess what they'd do with one of Pakistan's nukes if they were to, I don't know, maybe get one slipped to them as long as no they didn't ask questions?

      Yes, DoD is expensive, losing a war is vastly more expensive. Let's talk some numbers, shall we. The U.S. DoD recurring budget (forgetting about Iraq and Afghanistan) is roughly $600 Billion/yr. Our recurring budget deficit is over $1 trillion. So even halving DoD's budget won't put us in the money. That doesn't count the Me Generation demanding their slice when they start retiring because there's nothing worse than a Baby Boomer who isn't made to feel the center of attention. Deficits from those nutjobs are well north of several trillion.

      So no, there's isn't plenty of money to go around. Also, before you hop on the disarmament wagon train, you might want to consider that other countries reactions to the loss of the U.S. nuclear umbrella are probably not what you'd like them to be. First off, if Iran goes nuclear and the U.S. isn't around to back up the Arabs that hate us, the Arabs will want theirs too...of course they could rely on the Europeans...bwahahaahahaha...seriously, no one relies on those jokers. Hell, the U.S. is allied with them and knows better than to rely on them. Then there's the Asian countries who dearly love their Chinese brothers...as long as the their Chinese brothers don't have designs on their land, raw materials, etc...which they do. They will likely demand a nuclear counterpoint to China, Japan will find their pacifist notions are mere indulgences they can ill afford with China pushing them around, not to mention those nice well-adjusted N. Koreans.

  5. concern over cyberterrorism by visible.frylock · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the face of meatspace terrorism, meatspace liberties can be curtailed. That's why there's "concern" over cyberterrorism. Because the internet is not healthy for the establishment. It can spread both truth and propaganda, but currently, it tends too much toward truth for the establishment. If that sounds crazy to you (nothing on the internet but lies and pr0n!) then you haven't looked around.

    FTA:

    It is alarming that so many people have accepted the White House's assertions about cyber-security as a key national security problem without demanding further evidence. Have we learned nothing from the WMD debacle? The administration's claims could lead to policies with serious, long-term, troubling consequences for network openness and personal privacy.

    Yes, this same thing keeps happening, where a (possibly) real world problem is used to justify a curtailing of freedom, consolidation of power, and serving various agendas of people in power at the time. A cynic might say it's planned, but we're not cynical, are we?

    I suggest we give it a name. Let's call it Problem-Reaction-Solution.

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  6. No "cyberwarriors needed", first round by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look, for the first round of clean up no "cyberwarriors" are needed. We just had yet another article about how single city, for a single Windows worm, lost millions due to clean up. In that case it lost over $2.5 million, including rewarding the designers of the security flaws to the tune of $1 million. Knocking down a water tower would probably cost less to repair. So why are not the defense and law enforcement agencies stepping in here?

    It's not a nameless or faceless "terrorist" group that is costing our businesses, shutting down our infrastructure, tangling our air traffic control, our power grid, or our hospitals. The people promoting Windows and Microsoft technologies have real names and faces and walk among us every day. Take them out and we've won the first round. It could be as simple as organizing a large scale round up under the RICO Act.

    From there we can go on to hardening the net with IPv6 and dealing with the usual intelligence / counter-intelligence activities. But the first step, before we can stop the economic bleeding is to deal with the cause of the problem: the people who promote and profit from known defective technology.

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    1. Re:No "cyberwarriors needed", first round by $1uck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      MS is not the one perpetuating the attacks, or causing the damage. There are no laws holding them responsible for creating a secure operating system. Rounding them up and punishing them is hardly legal/ethical/moral. The first thing we should do is start with laws requiring the people creating the networks/data warehouses to secure them properly. Then they'll demand a better product (from MS or some other vendor) if not they should be responsible (unless said vendor wishes to indemnify them). MS is just trying to make a buck, they're not actually attacking anyone.

  7. Re:Are you kidding? by TerranFury · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, but it's not cyber-"terrorism;" nothing is going to blow up. It's just espionage.

    Plus, I've got to wonder how much of this is truly "hackers" from the outside, and how much is just the result of employees taking data with them -- whether they're just being sloppy, or actually malicious (e.g., ethnic Chinese with misplaced loyalties (god do I hate nationalism)).

    Whatever the case, without disclosure for each "incident" of what actually happened in technical terms, we the public will never understand what's going on at any level besides "OMG HACKERS" -- which can mean anything.

  8. You're wrong. by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's fear, yes. But it is extremely well-justified fear.

    I do penetration tests for large companies. It's bad. Everywhere. The only reason penetration tests are ever unsuccessful is when the tester's hands are tied. Attacker's hands are not tied. Furthermore, denial-of-service flaws are universally ignored because information disclosure is considered a higher priority, and most companies have their hands full dealing with those flaws.

    So let me make this as clear as possible: A single individual could shut down pretty much any large company. A group of individuals (say, from a hostile government) could halt operations in multiple simultaneous companies. Target a few large supply-chain management companies and a few large payment-processing/banking companies, and it would be relatively easy to shut down the economy for a while.

    That means food rots on delivery trucks while paychecks stop flowing to employees. And don't think we will all switch over to doing things by hand during such an attack. The infrastructure to do so has been dismantled. We are entirely dependent on digital transactions these days.

    Why hasn't such an attack happened? Is the probability really "low" as you suggest? It's just a matter of motivation. There isn't much profit in doing such a (tedious) thing for the eastern-european hacker crime groups, nor for the bored teenagers. There is more profitable, lower-hanging fruit. But if we went to war with a sophisticated nation, the motivations are entirely different. Widespread DoS combined with targeted database corruption would do much more damage to the economy (that thing that allows us to have the best military) than similarly-funded missile strikes.

    Ignore the sound-bites security companies feed the media, but don't ignore the problem. This is perhaps the weakest part of our nation's defense infrastructure.

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  9. Re:Are you kidding? by steelfood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everybody, governments, companies, content creators, privacy advocates, have the same problem: digital information is cheap to disseminate.

    If somebody breaks into a library of secret documents, there's a limit to how many copies they can make and take out. Even if they were to scan and store every page in every folder in every cabinet, it's still extremely time-consuming.

    If somebody breaks into a computer full of secret documents, it takes seconds, maybe minutes, to copy the whole thing. And, the person doesn't have to be physically located by the computer. The person could be halfway around the world, or just right next door but seem halfway around the world.

    What it amounts to is that secret-keeping is becoming more and more difficult. Actually, this isn't true. The difficulty of secret-keeping hasn't changed. But society desires convenience. And little do people know, these two concepts are mutually exclusive.

    Furthermore, while convenience is individual, keeping secrets is communal. "Secret" is a term that only has meaning within the context of systems, i.e. only people inside the system know the secret, while people outside the system do not know. The problem is when one individual wants convenience and compromises secrecy for it, then the secret is effectively compromised.

    Everybody just wants to have their cake and eat it too. That kind of logical impossibility will not happen, no matter how much we might desire it.

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