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First Fully Programmable Gesture-Recognition Glove, Cheap

Al writes "The AcceleGlove from AnthroTronix, is the first fully programmable glove that records hand and finger movements. Other gloves — like 5DT's Data Glove, which is used primarily in virtual reality — normally cost $1,000 to $5,000, but the AcceleGlove costs just $499. The AcceleGlove comes with software that lets developers use Java to program it for any application they wish. AnthroTronix initially developed the glove with the US Department of Defense for robotic control but it could also be used in video games, sports training, or physical rehabilitation."

77 comments

  1. Finally, I can make my Michael Jackson VR Rig! by dmmiller2k · · Score: 1

    Gotta get me one of those.

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    1. Re:Finally, I can make my Michael Jackson VR Rig! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wear it when you wank and its like someone else is doing you while you do someone else!

    2. Re:Finally, I can make my Michael Jackson VR Rig! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had one of those a long time ago. You could buy it for the Nintendo 8-bit, hack the cable, hook it to a serial port, and fully program it.

      We used to buy them from pawn shops & use them to play Doom.

      But I guess these might be a little better.

    3. Re:Finally, I can make my Michael Jackson VR Rig! by robthebloke · · Score: 1

      I agree. My computer will now know when I'm flipping it the bird, or watching porn. Awesome... !

  2. "Cheap"??? by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

    You might consider that price a bargain, for what it does, but that is NOT cheap!

    1. Re:"Cheap"??? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Compared to the usual price range which is about ten times what this glove costs, it is quite cheap. Wouldn't you call a new car cheap if it costs just 2000 bucks?

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    2. Re:"Cheap"??? by JobyOne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This isn't quite that extreme. I would say a "typical" new car goes for $15,000+, so a better analogy would be a new car costing only $7,500.

      I would be excited that it was cheap, but I would also expect it to be...well...cheap.

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    3. Re:"Cheap"??? by Clixx · · Score: 1

      To be fair, he did say it could be considered a bargain for what it does. Relatively: sure, it's cheap. Absolutely: no, I think it isn't.

    4. Re:"Cheap"??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It doesn't seem this AcceleGlove really compares with the more expensive data gloves. It has accelerometers for fingers, allowing you to measure their movements, while more expensive gloves include sensors that measure the actual angles of the joints. Basically, this glove has five degrees of freedom for the fingers, the more expensive ones up to twenty or so.

    5. Re:"Cheap"??? by Rayeth · · Score: 1

      I can agree that the price seems outrageous, however I would say that cheap is fairly applied here. Also note that the product does not seem quite ready for mass market consumption (something which drives price down much more), and until it is I suspect none of these devices will ever seem "cheap" to you.

    6. Re:"Cheap"??? by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 1

      You might consider that price a bargain, for what it does, but that is NOT cheap!

      Poor people. Why do we even let them on the Internet?

    7. Re:"Cheap"??? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      You might consider that price a bargain, for what it does, but that is NOT cheap!

      Cheap is relative. I know people who have spent $500 on a video card.

      To someone, likely here, they're going holy crap, I need one!

      People spend crazy money on their toys, especially when the price comes down by as much as an order of magnitude!

      Cheers

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    8. Re:"Cheap"??? by youn · · Score: 1

      Oh the obligatory slashdot car analogy to drive the message through :)

      So why is this car so much cheaper anyway... lemme guess... something different in the glove compartment?

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    9. Re:"Cheap"??? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      You're assuming that you can move finger joints independently. Try bending your little finger without bending your ring finger.

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    10. Re:"Cheap"??? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No problem. It does take concentration, though, but is entirely possible. I'm fairly sure if someone practiced, he could do it without thinking.

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    11. Re:"Cheap"??? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      I didn't think this was possible due to the arrangement of flexor tendons in the palm. I stand corrected!

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    12. Re:"Cheap"??? by Sinbios · · Score: 1

      Easier when you have a double-jointed ring finger.

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    13. Re:"Cheap"??? by n00854180t · · Score: 1

      Well, for the purpose of something like a game interface, that's actually fairly acceptable, because one can use the inverse kinematics algorithms to reproduce a decent representation of the angles of the joints, simply from the end points of the fingers, that this particular glove *does* track. I've wanted one of these things for certain game prototypes for ages, but no way I'm going to spend $2k+ to get one.

    14. Re:"Cheap"??? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I would be excited that it was cheap, but I would also expect it to be...well...cheap.

      The Nintendo Power Glove was under a hundred bucks, right? Like 20 years ago?

      But that was designed for kids, this was designed for the military.

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  3. Software is good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    The voice synth part is annoying though when it says, "stop that or you will go blind!" anytime I move the glove vigorously.

    1. Re:Software is good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to program mine to minimize all windows in the event I stop vigorously moving my hand abruptly.
      Laugh all you want, but nobody will know what I'm doing if they barge in just by looking at my screen!

    2. Re:Software is good by Joebert · · Score: 1

      Laugh all you want, but nobody will know what I'm doing if they barge in just by looking at my screen!

      Yeah but they might wonder what you're doing sitting there wearing a funky glove on one hand with your penis out. Especially if there's no porn on the screen.

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  4. Self-serve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Are slashvertisements self-serve now? Do you just pick an editor and a dept and enter your credit card info?

  5. records hand movements? by owlnation · · Score: 1

    Yay! That just opens up a whole new world of sex toys...

    1. Re:records hand movements? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Yay! That just opens up a whole new world of sex toys...

      That would be rule 34. ;-)

      Cheers

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  6. Recognize This Gesture ! +1, Helpful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

        FU !

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    Kilgore Trout

  7. I love the AcceleGlove.. by Clixx · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's so bad.

  8. Sweet! by JobyOne · · Score: 1

    Now I can jerk off with a robot hand controlled by my real hand!

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    1. Re:Sweet! by TheGothicGuardian · · Score: 1

      A word of warning

    2. Re:Sweet! by TheMiddleRoad · · Score: 1

      Or you can just make your arm go to sleep then use it to rub one off.

  9. Comments are bizarre by JobyOne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Completely counting my own comment above...it's amusing to me how many commenters immediately took this news to a perverted place.

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  10. How good is it for real? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I remember well a few more "first affordable" devices, from hand writing recognition to HMDs. Usually, you have to sacrifice quality when you drop the price, and usually that's basically what is done.

    I'm not saying this won't be a quality device. I just say I've seen it happen far too often to jump on "first affordable" devices anymore.

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  11. yawn! by Arthurio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So it has 5 1D accelerometers under each finger connected to a primitive microcontroller and an usb controller? Basically no useful software? For $500 that's probably going to be $800+ when and if it ever reaches Europe? Forgive me but this is hardly exciting. Come beck when you have 32 sensors which I believe is the minimum you'll need if you want to be able to record every movement of a human hand. Then you'll be worth your 3 line slashvertisement.

  12. Nintendo called from 1986.... by gwdoiron · · Score: 3, Funny

    They want their Powerglove back.

    1. Re:Nintendo called from 1986.... by captjc · · Score: 2, Informative

      They can have it, worthless piece of crap.

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    2. Re:Nintendo called from 1986.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love the powerglove. It's so bad.

    3. Re:Nintendo called from 1986.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love the powerglove... it's so bad.

    4. Re:Nintendo called from 1986.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

    5. Re:Nintendo called from 1986.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LO...L

    6. Re:Nintendo called from 1986.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you ever actually use one? For some games, in the appropriate mode, it was really incredible. I say this as someone who had a chance to mess around with one fairly recently (last 10 years).

  13. Wow. The only thing I need is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess it must be difficult to determine if I'm holding up my middle finger.

  14. Why no wireless? by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why not have bluetooth or wireless USB. Seems like for something interactive you're not going to want to be wired down for it. If game controllers can do it you'd think something 10x the price wouldn't have a wire sticking out the back.

    1. Re:Why no wireless? by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why not have bluetooth or wireless USB. Seems like for something interactive you're not going to want to be wired down for it.

      Where do you put the battery?

      Strapping it to your wrist isn't exactly the best idea,
      considering you always want to minimize the mass.
      Anywhere else and you've still got a cord

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    2. Re:Why no wireless? by ascendant · · Score: 1

      Batteries are heavy.
      Figure out why they didn't make one part of the glove yourself.

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    3. Re:Why no wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what she said...

    4. Re:Why no wireless? by JuzzFunky · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Why no wireless? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      Make it powered via piezoelectric elements. You power it by moving your hand.

    6. Re:Why no wireless? by vlad30 · · Score: 1

      Make it powered via piezoelectric elements. You power it by moving your hand.

      1 create glove with piezoelectric elements

      2 sell on Fark,com and slashdot

      3 solved the worlds energy crisis

      4 ??? I think I this isn't required

      5 PROFIT

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  15. I have an application for this.. by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 3, Funny

    This gesture glove, combined with a large LED-matrix display fitted to the back of my car would take driving to a whole new level.

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    1. Re:I have an application for this.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow you just made me spew soda all over my keyboard!

  16. Misleading Headline Rears Its Ugly Head by Kneo24 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ah yes, the age old complaint about misleading headlines. They will never end. I'm sure cheap in this case is a relative word. It's relatively considerably cheaper than the alternatives.

  17. New iPhone App? by cashman73 · · Score: 1

    This will go great combined with facial recognition goggles ... so, when you flip someone the bird, your iPhone simultaneous texts them, "FU!" while also hacking into their bank account and stealing all their money! ;-)

    1. Re:New iPhone App? by Suiggy · · Score: 1

      Yeah. But only if they release C/C++/Obj-C APIs for it.

  18. Synergy effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just imagine this glove together with a hot, burning, pink Apple iPhone !
    The possibilities are endless.

  19. Java API by blackfrancis75 · · Score: 1

    If you use it with your left hand, it feels like Perl.

    1. Re:Java API by Suiggy · · Score: 1

      Game developers sure do love developing with Java. Yep, this will integrate perfectly into our XBox 360/PS 3/Wii engine. After all, our engine is built in 100% Java. Not any of that crappy C or C++ stuff that the official development kits for those consoles require you use. Nope, I hand rolled my own JRE.

  20. Can it play gestures back too? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    Because if it can, I'm sure virtual handjobs from your favorite porn star are just minutes away.

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  21. Applications for the Glove by Akir · · Score: 1

    In interactive media:
    take off the glove to smack your opponent as you challenge them to a duel!
    play a virtual flute that will make others watching you think you've gone insane!
    Fill the glove with Vasoline and pretend you're Curly(R) from Of Mice and Men(C)!
    Most realistic boss-stabbing simulation ever!
    Aim your gun - WITH YOUR HANDS(TM)! (disclaimer: never aim a gun with other appendages)
    Smack them bitches - LITERALLY!
    Pretend you're a ghost by activating {noclip} and walking through walls! (disclamer: do not attempt to walk through walls)
    Pet virtual chickens!


    Coming soon from ANTHROTRONICS!
    The IntelliSock (patent pending)!

    All your friends will be jealous of you when you wiggle and pick up things with your toes - IN A VIRTUAL WORLD! WOW!
    After all, who would like a VR fighting game where you can't _kick your enemy when he's down_(TM)?

  22. Too little, Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This technology is already obsolete. Microsoft's project Natal has the technology
    that does the gesture recognition without any glove.

    That said, there are probably other possible areas where this technology
    would be better suited that camera based gesture recognotion as in Natal.
    For instance, recording the surgeons hand & finger movements for modelling
    and replay/simulation later.

  23. Tonsillectomies over the Internet by srobert · · Score: 1

    How long before surgeons start using these to perform surgery over the internet?

    1. Re:Tonsillectomies over the Internet by Sinbios · · Score: 1

      Tomorrow, if you don't mind buying all the tools and then dying horribly of infections!

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  24. Tagging question (OT) by 6Yankee · · Score: 1

    How do you tag this !jacko without it auto-completing to !jackoff?

    1. Re:Tagging question (OT) by dangitman · · Score: 1
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  25. Building your own. by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

    I made a primitive version with a partner in highschool, we did finger bending using potentiometers but never got around to getting position so we used a mouse.
    (I was in charge of software)

    Now I looked at sparkfun and they have a 6 degrees of freedom sensor for $125, add to that six flex sensors ($13 each) and some sort of CPU looks like something around $40 would do and you have your very own data glove for around $250.

  26. Neither first nor cheap by grumbel · · Score: 1

    VR gloves in consumer hands are nothing new. First there was the Nintendo Powerglove and then a while later there was the P5 Glove for the PC and soon to be there is Microsofts Natal, which works completly without gloves and instead just with a camera.

    I really don't see anything special about this, especially since the price falls in into the fucking expensive category and not into one where it is interesting for the average consumers.

  27. Cheaper for christmas by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    Don't worry, manufacturers are working hard to make these gloves cheaper in time for christmas. It's the replacement fingers that will cost you.

  28. 5DT MRI glove by FooRat · · Score: 2, Informative

    For some reason the summary links to 5DT's MRI glove, which is specialized for use in MRI applications (no metal) and obviously costs more ... cheaper 'normal' glove is here.

    1. Re:5DT MRI glove by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      A thousand bucks is a lot, though. And for five hundred, I want more than some accelerometers. I want the position of every joint in the hand! I'm serious when I say that a five-sensor project like what they're selling here is within the reach of the experimenter. You will need some cheap little accelerometers (like these?) and a microcontroller with some high-res counters, probably one per axis.

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    2. Re:5DT MRI glove by FooRat · · Score: 1

      The problem is a data glove is not a volume product; even if they could make them much cheaper, this will probably never be a mass consumer product. To make and sell an actual product involves a lot more than just the potential unit manufacturing cost of the tech (office space, marketing, software, distribution, HR, legal, accounting, engineers, managers, making drivers etc.) - unless you're talking about a home-made job, you have to add all that stuff into the price. Personally I doubt you can turn any kind of profit selling a five-sensor glove at $500 - the market's just too small - this company isn't going anywhere.

  29. Finally by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    An input device for those of us that have been frustrated for many years by the fact that computers can never tell when we are flipping them off!

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  30. shdfjhsd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    interactive three finger salute?

  31. Subject by Legion303 · · Score: 1

    I just thought of a great way to use this device for those times you have to reboot your system.

  32. Microsoft's Project Natal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft's low cost Project Natal camera system would seem to make this sort of thing obsolete. Why wear a glove if a cheap time-of-flight IR camera can capture your gestures effectively?

  33. Ads by soren202 · · Score: 1

    Ads? On MY Slashdot?

    It's more likely than you think.

    And as a side note.... $500 is never "cheap" unless we're talking cars, houses, real jewelry, or very powerful computers.