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Examining the HTML 5 Video Codec Debate

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on from the we'll-cooperate-and-do-it-my-way dept.

Ars Technica has a great breakdown of the codec debate for the HTML 5 video element. Support for the new video element seems to be split into two main camps, Ogg Theora and H.264, and the inability to find a solution has HTML 5 spec editor Ian Hickson throwing in the towel. "Hickson outlined the positions of each major browser vendor and explained how the present impasse will influence the HTML 5 standard. Apple and Google favor H.264 while Mozilla and Opera favor Ogg Theora. Google intends to ship its browser with support for both codecs, which means that Apple is the only vendor that will not be supporting Ogg. 'After an inordinate amount of discussions, both in public and privately, on the situation regarding codecs for and in HTML5, I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that there is no suitable codec that all vendors are willing to implement and ship,' Hickson wrote. 'I have therefore removed the two subsections in the HTML5 spec in which codecs would have been required, and have instead left the matter undefined.'"

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  1. It's a toughy by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Informative

    Do we use an inferior standard or a closed standard?

    Maybe "implementation dependent" is the term we're after.

    1. Re:It's a toughy by maxume · · Score: 5, Informative

      It matters very little. If Microsoft and Apple fail to implement Theora, the fact that the standard calls for it will not matter (because it will not be practical as a universal fallback).

      Mozilla can't license H.264 in a way that lets downstream packagers use it, so they don't want to put it in the standard either.

      The previous /. story discussing the email Hickson sent out covered this stuff pretty well.

      It isn't particularly hard to do things like put a flash fallback inside of a video tag, so people that want to use the standard but still have wide reach have lots of options (flash is the de facto way to play 'web' video today, so I don't think it is unreasonable to assume that this may continue).

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  2. XiphQT Components by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://xiph.org/quicktime/

    Adds support for Ogg Vorbis and Ogg Theora to QuickTime (which is used for nearly all media playback on OSX). Easy to install (but could be made easier easily - such as making into a .pkg), and makes Safari 4 work with <video> and Theora.

    Also, can we please stop whining about this in relation to the HTML5 spec? HTML has never specified file formats for media/objects (<img>, <object>) and it should *not* start now.