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The Dilemma of Level vs. Skill In MMOs
Karen Hertzberg writes "Since MMORPGs became a mainstream medium, players have debated the two primary methods of advancement. Which is better? Is it the level-based system that is so dominant in today's MMORPGs, or the lesser-used skill-based system? This has been a strong subject of debate on many forums, blogs, and gaming sites for as long as the genre has existed. Ten Ton Hammer's Cody 'Micajah' Bye investigates the two concepts and gathers input from some of the brightest minds in the gaming industry about their thoughts on the two systems of advancement."
Relatedly, I've seen a growing trend of players saying that such games don't really take much skill at all. The standard argument is that it just boils down to "knowing how to move" or "knowing when to hit your buttons." In the MMO community, people often make references to FPS or RTS games, saying they have a higher skill cap. However, the same complaints also come from within those communities, with comments like "you just need to know the map," or "it's all about a good build order." At what point does intimate knowledge of a game's mechanics make a player skilled?
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Sprocket, 8 small questions (& please, no wall of text w/out documented backing @ least - quit evading answering them, especially the 1st one, & then we can refer to what is @ the bottom of my "p.s." below, vs. your evasive walls of text):
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1.) DEFINE THE WORD PERFECT or PERFECTLY, won't you? (which is what Mr. Ken Richmond, VP of market data systems @ NASDAQ said MDDS performs like, verbatim quoted below & that it provides "Enterprise Availability")
2.) CAN YOU PROVE THAT NASDAQ IS NOT SEEING 99.999% UPTIME ON MDDS? (NASDAQ's OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM (which is what I said from the get go, not anything else, though you attempted to IMPLY that I did, & yet you had to admit I did NOT say that here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28583581, lol)
3.) Did I ever once say that MDDS is the quote system @ NASDAQ? If so, SHOW US ALL, where I did... (you already admitted I did not, right here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28574671 so that "argument" of yours (straw man type b.s.) fails on that alone - failure to provide PROOF, which is also what you also fail to provide to prove that MDDS does not give 99.999% uptime for NASDAQ, lmao! Sprocket? Putting words in others' mouths they never said is NOT good debate, it always FAILS, as you have, because you do that)
4.) Does any other program @ NASDAQ do what MDDS does @ NASDAQ? (composed of SQLServer 2005 + Windows Server 2003) inclusive of the TIBCO + custom programmed trading floor quote system?
5.) Did you have to ADMIT that SQLServer 2005 + Windows Server 2003 can provide 99.999% uptime? Sure you did, right here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28582575 especially after the XEROX example, which does many orders of magnitude more transactions PER DAY than NASDAQ's MDDS even (& that alone says NASDAQ is pulling that easily enough, alongside the QUOTED testimonials of Ken Richmond of NASDAQ below (which is what I always provide, quoted verbatim testimonials, & All YOU have? Is what your "trollish delusional brain" interprets (without backing & purely opinion - don't like that? Well, show us PROOF that NASDAQ's MDDS is not doing 99.999% uptime then, simple!)))
6.) What EXACTLY is your role in this field/science (computing), professionally, & how many years of it do you have under your belt, + how many degrees around it or certs @ the very least also?
7.) Have you EVER been published in written publications such as "trade rags" as they are often called, for work you have done?
8.) Has work you done ever been featured as a finalist @ Microsoft "tech ed" or like trade shows, & for 2 yrs. in a ROW, as a finalist in that show's hardest category?
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You're going to love his evasions - they're classic humor! Get ready for a "wall of text" style evasion, everyone... lol!
(However, of course, our "favorite troll" will evade answering them, short & sweet style, because all he will be able to do, lmao, is put up a 'wall of text', complete with evasions of these simple questions... like usual: Trolls - they're TOO predictable, easy to manipulate with facts, & TOO easy to "push their buttons" (especially when they're proven WRONG, as Sprocket here has been))
Also, there IS the simple fact that you had to resort to name calling as well, directed MY way, here, which you "prided yourself" on NOT doing, quoted verbatim, below next (but that THIN veneer has been cracked, TOO easily (trolls - they ALWAYS "fold under pressure" & use "pot calling the kettle black" tactics + put words into others' mouths they never said also)):
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Cool deal, d00der!
Sprocket, 8 small questions (& please, no wall of text w/out documented backing @ least - quit evading answering them, especially the 1st one, & then we can refer to what is @ the bottom of my "p.s." below, vs. your evasive walls of text):
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1.) DEFINE THE WORD PERFECT or PERFECTLY, won't you? (which is what Mr. Ken Richmond, VP of market data systems @ NASDAQ said MDDS performs like, verbatim quoted below & that it provides "Enterprise Availability")
2.) CAN YOU PROVE THAT NASDAQ IS NOT SEEING 99.999% UPTIME ON MDDS? (NASDAQ's OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM (which is what I said from the get go, not anything else, though you attempted to IMPLY that I did, & yet you had to admit I did NOT say that here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28583581, lol)
3.) Did I ever once say that MDDS is the quote system @ NASDAQ? If so, SHOW US ALL, where I did... (you already admitted I did not, right here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28574671 so that "argument" of yours (straw man type b.s.) fails on that alone - failure to provide PROOF, which is also what you also fail to provide to prove that MDDS does not give 99.999% uptime for NASDAQ, lmao! Sprocket? Putting words in others' mouths they never said is NOT good debate, it always FAILS, as you have, because you do that)
4.) Does any other program @ NASDAQ do what MDDS does @ NASDAQ? (composed of SQLServer 2005 + Windows Server 2003) inclusive of the TIBCO + custom programmed trading floor quote system?
5.) Did you have to ADMIT that SQLServer 2005 + Windows Server 2003 can provide 99.999% uptime? Sure you did, right here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28582575 especially after the XEROX example, which does many orders of magnitude more transactions PER DAY than NASDAQ's MDDS even (& that alone says NASDAQ is pulling that easily enough, alongside the QUOTED testimonials of Ken Richmond of NASDAQ below (which is what I always provide, quoted verbatim testimonials, & All YOU have? Is what your "trollish delusional brain" interprets (without backing & purely opinion - don't like that? Well, show us PROOF that NASDAQ's MDDS is not doing 99.999% uptime then, simple!)))
6.) What EXACTLY is your role in this field/science (computing), professionally, & how many years of it do you have under your belt, + how many degrees around it or certs @ the very least also?
7.) Have you EVER been published in written publications such as "trade rags" as they are often called, for work you have done?
8.) Has work you done ever been featured as a finalist @ Microsoft "tech ed" or like trade shows, & for 2 yrs. in a ROW, as a finalist in that show's hardest category?
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You're going to love his evasions - they're classic humor! Get ready for a "wall of text" style evasion, everyone... lol!
(However, of course, our "favorite troll" will evade answering them, short & sweet style, because all he will be able to do, lmao, is put up a 'wall of text', complete with evasions of these simple questions... like usual: Trolls - they're TOO predictable, easy to manipulate with facts, & TOO easy to "push their buttons" (especially when they're proven WRONG, as Sprocket here has been))
Also, there IS the simple fact that you had to resort to name calling as well, directed MY way, here, which you "prided yourself" on NOT doing, quoted verbatim, below next (but that THIN veneer has been cracked, TOO easily (trolls - they ALWAYS "fold under pressure" & use "pot calling the kettle black" tactics + put words into others' mouths they ne