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Standalone GPS Receivers Going the Way of the Dodo

Hugh Pickens writes "The NY Times reports that more than 40 percent of all smartphone owners and 80 percent of iPhone users use their mobile devices to get turn-by-turn directions driving down sales of traditional standalone GPS units from companies like TomTom, Garmin and Magellan. During the first quarter, TomTom said it shipped 29 percent fewer GPS units compared with the period in 2008 while Garmin's unit sales fell 13 percent from the previous year. While smartphones are susceptible to interruptions from incoming phone calls and using the mapping features for a long time can chew through battery power, the list of the smartphone's shortcomings is dwindling as some of the latest navigation applications offer voice navigation and take advantage of the phone's always-connected state to offer real-time traffic updates, directions to contacts in the phone's address book and more. 'I've not stopped using a GPS because I never bought one in the first place — they are expensive and inconvenient,' says Steve Weller. 'Now with the iPhone, I will actually use GPS — and the 10 other functions it replaces.' The traditional GPS device companies are trying to adapt, seeking to expand their reach into the smartphone market. TomTom recently announced that it would introduce a portable navigation application for the iPhone that would feature turn-by-turn directions and audio prompts. 'The simplicity of having one device and not needing to pull the Garmin out of my glove compartment is enough,' says Andrew DiMarcangelo. 'I want to get into my car and do as few things as possible.'"

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  1. I think there is a bit of a stretch here... by east+coast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With the downturn in the economy it only stands to figure that gizmos like GPS are falling off a lot of people's shopping lists. I won't deny that some are taking the cheaper route and using an existing device for their nav but how many are using it because they have it and not because they really wanted it to begin with?

    Couple this with more and more cars coming equipped with these devices already installed.

    Between these three factors I think it's a bit easier to see where the slide is happening. Simply assuming that it's all phone based is short sighted.

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  2. falling sales mean little or nothing by a2wflc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    29 and 13% fewer sales may be meaningful, but may not. How much have sales of other items fallen in this economy? What % of people who would use a GPS had bought one in previous years so didn't need one this year. I've been looking at getting one of these for a few years, and late 2007 was the first time the price & features were what I was looking for. So I could see 2008 being a big selling year for anyone who wanted one and thus 2009 would be a drop off from 2008. (I finally bought my first one 2 weeks ago so there's at least one example counter to my argument but I still think it's possible)

  3. Re:I guess I should prepare for extinction then by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's all hype.

    No smartphone is waterproof and can be easily read in direct sun while mounted to a motorcycle handlebar.

    No smartphone can do what my field guide GPS can do. (Give me elevation maps... oh the iphone cant do that? sowwwy.)

    No smartphone can work well on a boat at 55mph across the water and it does not interface to my autohelm.

    Only a utterly complete fool would think the standalone GPS is going the way of the DoDo bird.

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  4. Re:I guess I should prepare for extinction then by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No smartphone is waterproof and can be easily read in direct sun while mounted to a motorcycle handlebar.
    Buy a case.

    No smartphone can do what my field guide GPS can do. (Give me elevation maps... oh the iphone cant do that? sowwwy.)
    Sure it can -- log into google maps, and use the elevation maps feature.

    No smartphone can work well on a boat at 55mph across the water and it does not interface to my autohelm.
    Sure they can -- put them in aeroplane mode and use the GPS chip as normal.

    Only a utterly complete fool would think the standalone GPS is going the way of the DoDo bird.
    Only a utterly complete fool would think that most standalone GPS units are used for what you just outlined. Most of them are sat just inside a car windscreen giving turn-by-turn directions, for which, a smartphone is totally ideal -- it's not like you can use your phone while driving anyway.

  5. Re:I guess I should prepare for extinction then by rhsanborn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For hiking, and boating it doesn't fit. But Garmin, Magellan, and TomTom have been rolling in piles of cash from the market of individuals who want turn by turn in their cars or as toys. It sounds like they are losing that market, and a big market it is. There will still exist the niche markets which existed before. Recreational motoring, and serious hiking, etc.

  6. Re:Tax Funded GPS...why the hell should we pay? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    GPS only provides your position, not map data.

    The navigation services offered by providers give you the map data and the routing algorithms to do more with that GPS than feed you a string of numbers.

    Use of the GPS receiver in AT&T devices is 100% free unless you want to use Telenav, which provides map data, POI searches, and routing functionality. If you don't like the idea of paying for service, you can pay Garmin for standalone software that does the same thing. (Or, if you live outside the US, TomTom - TomTom Navigator is no longer sold to US customers starting with Navigator 7.)

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  7. Re:I guess I should prepare for extinction then by RoverDaddy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wish I could mod you up. This the point the GP misses. All the scenarios he mentions are niches, which probably will not see the GPS being replaced by smartphones in the near future. However, if companies like Garmin et. al. have to go back to catering only to those niche markets, there will be a lot of bleeding to be done. The standalone GPS might as well go extinct for the amount of shrinkage its market will see.

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  8. Re:I guess I should prepare for extinction then by TheMeuge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only a utterly complete fool would think that most standalone GPS units are used for what you just outlined. Most of them are sat just inside a car windscreen giving turn-by-turn directions, for which, a smartphone is totally ideal -- it's not like you can use your phone while driving anyway.

    Smartphone ideal as driving GPS?

    How about having a screen that is of an actually useful size for the dashboard? If you ever tried driving in New Jersey, you'd realize how important having a visible map is (more important than getting spoken directions)... and that doesn't really work very well on a 3" screen, unless you want to squint at a tiny glossy screen while driving.

    A smartphone will work in a pinch... but I would much rather have a dedicated GPS.

  9. Vehicle navigation, but not anything else by shaper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article (and a lot of comments I have read so far) are only talking about casual navigation GPS, as in vehicle GPS units. The current crop of phone GPS solutions is inadequate for backpacking, camping, exploring or basically any outdoor activity that takes you very far away from a cell tower or a charging station.

    Most non-dedicated GPS units do not have a compass (the new iPhone 3GS is a notable exception).

    Most non-dedicated GPS units have pretty wretched sensitivity and accuracy compared to dedicated GPS units, especially in rough terrain or heavy tree cover. Anybody who does much geocaching will know this. It's no big deal while driving, but it can be very annoying to take the time to claw your way up a steep hillside only to realize you are 100 feet away from where you want to be, on the other side of a deep ravine. Even with driving, inaccuracy can be annoying, which is why TomTom includes another dedicated (more accurate) GPS in the vehicle mount for the new iPhone.

    Most phones do not use standard AA or AAA batteries, making it more difficult and expensive to carry spares out away from electrical connections.

    Some (most?) phone-based GPS solutions do not even install maps locally on the device, instead relying on cellular communications to download maps live, making them totally useless outside of cell coverage. AT&T's recently announced product for the iPhone is one example.

    Rain (or anything else that might get the unit wet). There are many dedicated GPS units available that have various levels of water resistance.

  10. Re:I guess I should prepare for extinction then by 644bd346996 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No smartphone can do what my field guide GPS can do. (Give me elevation maps... oh the iphone cant do that? sowwwy.)

    Sure it can -- log into google maps, and use the elevation maps feature.

    Google Maps' terrain feature doesn't include anywhere near enough data to be useful for even day hiking. You can't zoom in far enough (the best you can get is 40 foot contour intervals), it doesn't include trails or the smaller streams that are key water sources on multi-day backpacking treks, and you can't pre-download the maps to your smartphone so that you can use them once you get out of range of the network. Besides, as others have said, the battery life of a smartphone (especially one that has to download maps on the fly) isn't anywhere close to what a handheld hiking-oriented GPS receiver can get. Nor can they work as well under tree cover, because the antennas are far smaller than what standalone GPS units have. A smartphone is only good for casual road navigation. For any off-road use, or even serious on-road use, it is a mere toy.

  11. Re:I guess I should prepare for extinction then by Buelldozer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Buy a case"

    Okay, then how do I do things like drop waypoints on an Iphone once I've stuffed it into a waterproof, dustproof, and vibration resistant case so I can mount it to the handlebars on my ATV? You know, since you can no longer TOUCH THE SCREEN.

    "Log into google maps and use the elevations maps feature"

    What if I'm out of range of the nearest cell tower? That is pretty easy to do in large swaths of the United States. Antelope don't need cell service so no one builds towers out in the mountains. Other places you CANNOT build towers, Yellowstone National Park is one good example.

    "put them in Aeroplane mode and use the GPS chip as normal"

    No. As has been mentioned by hardware and software designers in this topic the GPS chips in most smartphones, including the iphone, don't update fast enough nor have enough intrinsic accuracy for for high speed (55MPH) applications or for applications where high accuracy is required...like steering a boat.

    "Only a fool..."

    I remain unconvinced that in car navigation is the primary use for GPS. I know far too many sportsman and outdoor enthusiasts who own a dedicated outdoor GPS but NO in car Sat-Nav for me to easily accept this without proof.

    A smartphone is a terrible replacement for dedicated GPS hardware in any application BUT in car navigation.