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Video Games, the First Amendment, and Obscenity

An anonymous reader writes with an excerpt from an article about how obscenity laws and the first amendment relate to modern games: "This question is a tough one, for the very good reason that no video game developer or publisher has ever been prosecuted for obscenity related to video games. As we have seen, if the medium of video games are held to the same standard as literature and film then, presumably, they can also be held to be obscene. One of the reasons for the lack of obscenity prosecution against video game developers and publishers is that the courts have limited obscenity to sexual content only. In fact, the courts have gone so far as to specifically reject calls to alter the definition of 'obscenity' to include violent content in video games. The other major reason is the vast majority of video games sold in the United States have only small amounts of sexual content thanks to the Electronic Software Rating Board."

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  1. "Obscenity"? by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 4, Informative

    Do keep in mind that the legal definition is really, past all the smoke and mirrors, whatever the judge personally finds distasteful. Deciding what the population doesn't need or want to view for them has no place in a free society.

    Then of course, we're not a free society.

    The law often makes up legal principles (usually giving them Latin names to try to make them seem magical and justified) to override other legal principles. Obscenity is a great way to override freedom of speech by taking speech, labeling it "obscenity," and then claiming that it's "not really speech." A problem with the constitution colliding with the rights of minors and school? No problem! "En loco parentis," is right up your alley (whether you agree with the concept or not). The "community standards" excuse is, even if it is applied as per the name, is a violation of individual rights which the legal system has been more than happy to sacrifice in the name of a sort of vicious populism. Why community standards in obscenity, and not political opinion? Obscenity, political opinion, all of it is simply how one takes it. Personally, I find Nazis more distasteful than goatse, but we're not at silencing them (yet...).

    This also extends into the domain of politics, where wars become "police action."

    Don't think freedom means a damn thing if the government gets to play with the meaning of words, or if whatever is popular reigns over individual rights.

  2. Re:Obscene by compro01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    That would be Miller v. California and is know as the Miller test. For something to be considered obscene, it needs to meet 3 criteria.

    1. The average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest.
    2. the work depicts/describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law.
    3. the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.

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  3. Re:The main reason games don't have obscene conten by ForexCoder · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sexual content in a movie that would earn an R rating by the MPAA, earns an A (adults only) rating in game. See, for example, the Hot Coffee version of GTA.

    This applies to retailers as well, the same retailer will accept the content in a movie but not in a game. It's not just chilling, it's deadly to a game.

  4. Re:Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness by compro01 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unless I'm mistaken, the Declaration of Independence has no legal standing.

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  5. Re:The main reason games don't have obscene conten by Freetardo+Jones · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually the part about the proprietary bootstrap code isn't an issue as was decided in Sega v Accolade in which Accolade reverse engineered code to load their games for the Genesis as they weren't a licensee of Sega. Basically that code wasn't covered by copyright because it was considered "non-expressive" and as such didn't get copyright protection. The issue for what the GP is talking about has to do with the cryptographic key signing that is used by the consoles. That is illegal to circumvent.

  6. Re:The main reason games don't have obscene conten by MsGeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Japanese seem to have no trouble delivering on this...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eroge

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  7. Re:The main reason games don't have obscene conten by instagib · · Score: 5, Informative

    If anything, the strategy of hiding sex in the US media during the last 2 decades did backfire: teenage pregancy rates are the highest among the "developed" countries. Spain for example is second lowest, I lived there during my teens, and the TV program there was very, let's say, educating (after 10pm).
    I guess that openess and explanation works better than obfuscation, as always.