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Murdoch Paper Reporters Eavesdropped On Celebrities' Voicemail

Michael_Curator writes "Executives at Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.-owned papers (including current Tory spokesman Andy Coulson) allowed reporters to hack into phone conversations of celebrities and then paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to cover it up. How did famously technologically-challenged reporters manage the feat without BT catching on? Voicemail." The New York Times says a preliminary investigation's been ordered, but the BBC's coverage indicates that a large-scale inquiry is unlikely.

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  1. Allegedly. by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One newspaper alleges that another did this. Why does the summary state, without qualification, that it occurred?

    1. Re:Allegedly. by SomeJoel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would it make a difference if they had said "allegedly"? People always assume that those accused are guilty. Look at COPS on TV. They have a disclaimer that says "all suspects are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" but the content of the show clearly implies that everyone is guilty. Disclaimers are so common and superfluous* that nobody pays attention to them anymore.

      *: Not all disclaimers are superfluous

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    2. Re:Allegedly. by chrb · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or maybe it's because an editor and a private investigator have already been jailed for their part in the hacking?

      Or maybe because News International has already paid out over £1 million to settle court cases brought by some of the people they listened in on, on the condition that they can't say anything about the case or settlement to anybody else, ever? And News International has not denied any of the allegations?

      The fact that a single, unelected individual can become as powerful as Murdoch is worrying in this day and age. After Tony Blair flew out to Australia to breakfast with Murdoch, the British tabloids switched overnight and Blair won the next election. According to the Independent, Murdoch is "so powerful that no politician dare take him on." According to Business Week:

      "his satellites deliver TV programs in five continents, all but dominating Britain, Italy, and wide swaths of Asia and the Middle East. He publishes 175
      newspapers, including the New York Post and The Times of London. In the U.S., he owns the Twentieth Century Fox Studio, Fox Network, and 35 TV stations that reach more than 40% of the country...His cable channels include fast-growing Fox News, and 19 regional sports channels. In all, as many as one in five American homes at any given time will be tuned into a show News Corp. either produced or delivered."

      So Murdoch owns many of the most influential TV stations and newspapers in the UK and US, and yet he pays almost no tax, only 6%. Murdoch even had a special tax credit for himself written into a US bill during the Clinton era. In the UK it was revealed that News International pays only 1.2% tax, and the governing Labour party refused to say anything on the issue.

      It is worrying that, in a democratic society, any single individual can influence public opinion so convincingly that even the governing left-leaning politicians, who would be his traditional enemies, must do underhand deals in order to gain his support and stay in power.

    3. Re:Allegedly. by Jhon · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hacking? Really?

      The hacking of mobile phones was a simple trick known to many a tabloid reporter. (Call the mobile number, when it went to voicemail tap in the network default pin code. If the phone owner hadn't set a pin code you were in and could listen to voicemails.)

      Sigh.

  2. Police: No new enquiry by gigne · · Score: 3, Informative

    Police say no new evidence means no enquiry.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8143120.stm

    One to keep a critical eye on

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  3. FTFA - default passwords by guruevi · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not eavesdropping on full conversations - apparently they listened into some people's voicemail accounts by dialing the voicemail and then using default pin codes (eg. 0000 or 1234) to listen to the conversations.

    There is not much you can do about it short of either changing your password or disabling voicemail or the carriers could inconvenience their customers by not allowing voicemail from other phone numbers (if that is at all possible)

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    1. Re:FTFA - default passwords by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So why didn't the police notify the general public that reporters were using this trick, and advise all cell phone users to set their PINs properly? I mean, aren't the police there to "protect and serve?"

      Or, are the police using this trick, as well, and didn't want to go public with a method that they are using to snoop on people, without any tap warrant?

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    2. Re:FTFA - default passwords by DigitAl56K · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The carriers voicemail system should do four things:

      1.When you first get a phone, auto-dial you once a day during business hours and prompt you to set a PIN until you do so

      2.Do not allow you to retrieve any queued voice mail until a PIN has been set, require that PINs can only be set from the number they are attached to (without the aid of customer service)

      3. Require PIN entry when dialed from other numbers. When you enter your PIN successfully it should say, "Thanks! You last logged in x ago", and if appropriate "Since then there have been x unsuccesful attempts to log in".

      4. If too many bad PINs are entered by default lock voicemail and redirect to customer service.

      Items #1&2 are a one time inconvenience when you get a new phone number. #3 adds 5 seconds to your call only when you use a different phone to check your voicemail. #4 just makes sense, and in the case that someone is getting DOS'd there could be a flag on the account customer service could set to use longer PINs that don't auto-lock.

      I don't buy into the "there is not much you can do about it line" since by this time anyone competent enough to design a voice-mail system for use by a large carrier ought to have enough experience with computers to understand fundamental guidelines for basic security. I came up with the above list in under 30 seconds.

    3. Re:FTFA - default passwords by Itninja · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not really a valid analogy since the voicemail messages are not being stolen, per se, just observed (or in this case listened to). I think a better one would be 'I see you left your door unlocked so I let myself in and read your diary'. Still not good, but also not theft.

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    4. Re:FTFA - default passwords by Digestromath · · Score: 5, Funny

      So we all agree it isn't theft. Its obviously copyright infringement! The penalties in the US would mark it as 100,000$ per voicemail track downloaded.

    5. Re:FTFA - default passwords by Thaelon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That would be annoying as hell.

      How about they leave the system as is, and let users too careless to change their passwords suffer the consequences instead of making everyone pay for their shortcomings?

      People like you are why we have stupid laws prohibiting things that most of us can handle responsibly blocked or prohibited for the sake of the retarded few.

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    6. Re:FTFA - default passwords by rvw · · Score: 3, Informative

      The police use their own voicemail password. In North America, it's usually 7782.

      I don't care about North American police. We here on slashdot use 1337!

    7. Re:FTFA - default passwords by DigitAl56K · · Score: 3, Informative

      Me:

      Items #1&2 are a one time inconvenience when you get a new phone number. #3 adds 5 seconds to your call only when you use a different phone to check your voicemail. #4 just makes sense, and in the case that someone is getting DOS'd there could be a flag on the account customer service could set to use longer PINs that don't auto-lock.

      You:

      That would be annoying as hell.

      Which part would be "annoying" - i.e. something you would have to do more than once ever (like setting your PIN), or something you would have to do anyway (i.e. entering it from another number)?

      People like you are why we have stupid laws prohibiting things that most of us can handle responsibly blocked or prohibited for the sake of the retarded few.

      To the contrary, it is people like you who make a poorly considered knee-jerk reaction to well considered discussions , speaking very loudly and making stupid accusations while doing so, that cause the very laws you're speaking of.

      The overall impact of everything I suggested? For 99.9% of people all it would mean that after buying a new phone you were forced to set a PIN.

      Feeding the trolls, I know..

  4. Re:Not much news here by darkmeridian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you don't lock the door then we can steal everything in your house.

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  5. Re:BT? by nebaz · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I would have to guess, Btitish Telecom? (Since they are talking about the BBC)

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  6. Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When BT eavesdrop on 10,000 of their customers private communications (by way of PHORM) nothing is done, but when 3000 celebs voicemail are involved they scream bloody murder.
    either intercepting peoples communication (of any kind) is illegal or its not, and if it is illegal why are there no prosecutions and conspiracy charges brought upon all DPI operators ?
    my ADSL internet goes down the same phonelines as voice but somehow its "different"

    after all they keep telling us if you have nothing to hide....

  7. Guardian Story by bmsleight · · Score: 4, Informative

    This was originally a Guardian Story. It relates to mobile phones, not BT landline.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/09/newsoftheworld-newsinternational

  8. According to the media... by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to the media, you are a hacker if you are even aware that default passwords can be used to bypass a security system. You are a hacker if you are capable of doing anything with a computer without a big corporation babying you along.

    The media has no clue about hackers. The New York Times is the same paper that has articles about "cool new software" to do things like digital post-it notes -- in the year 2009. Do you really expect them to differentiate between hacking and simply using a default password?

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    1. Re:According to the media... by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The media has no clue about hackers.

      Add that to the list if there's room. I know they're likewise clueless about basic biology, let alone stem cells, genetics, evolutionary theory, or microbiology. A friend of mine who is an ordained priest once pointed out to me that they're usually off on religious issues as well. General news services aren't really good at anything it seems besides celebrity gossip. Of course, it's a reflection of society's ignorance, which is even more depressing. Ask some guy off a street what a hacker is, I bet you'd be dissapointed. Hell, you'd probably be dissapointed in MY answer as to what a hacker is.

      For both our sakes, I won't answer, nor will I start quizing you about biology.

  9. Re:caller id spoofing != hacking by clone53421 · · Score: 4, Informative

    They weren't doing that. RTFA, they'd call the number and then dial the default PIN to try to access the voicemail. If the PIN hadn't been changed from the default, they'd be able to listen to all the messages.

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  10. Re:Surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Celebrity 1: "Hey dude"
    Celebrity 2: "Hey dude"
    Celebrity 1: "What's up?"
    Celebrity 2: "Nothing"
    Celebrity 1: "Wanna party?"
    Celebrity 2: "That would be totally awesome"
    Celebrity 1: "OK, see ya soon. Save Tibet and all that shit."
    Celebrity 2: "And the whales too man."

  11. More like... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see you left your window open, so I used my sound recording device to make some recordings of your conversations and daily routine.

    Illegal on my part, but completely your fault for allowing to happen. Your phone operator is free and clear.

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  12. Re:Not much news here by drsmithy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If someone interested in their privacy can't be bothered to figure out how to change their own password on their phone, why would they be upset when someone else listens?

    For the same reason if I leave my front door open I'd be upset to find someone wandering around inside my house.

    Not actively keeping someone out, is in no way the same thing as inviting them in.

  13. Re:Surprised? by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sports photographers, even for Soccer, use a 300mm to 400mm lens at most. A 1200mm lens would only be effective at taking pictures of things half a mile away or more (depending on the size of the thing, of course). The minimum focus distance for that bad boy is 46 feet, practical only if you're the poor photographer who is deprived of a sideline pass and are forced to take pictures from the nosebleeds. But then again, why would you spend $90,000 (the actual MSRP) on one if you were?

  14. Be interesting by drsmithy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    To see who has a problem with this, but is A-OK with connecting to any random unprotected WAP they can find.

  15. Re:BT? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You young whippersnappers! In my days, BT meant "big tits"! And that is how it should always be!

    Now get off my lawn!

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  16. They will get away with this. by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not only that, they will get away with it too.

    A police inquiry has already been ruled out. The Crown Prosecution Service "review", will amount to just that. Any parliamentary inquiry will likely be muted, and satisfied with only the resignation of the Tory's PR man Andy Coulson (Former News of the World Editor) as a tit for tat retribution for the resignation of Labor's PR man Damian McBride. Those bugged will be paid off(some already have been) with settlements that will hardly dint Rupert Murdoch's News International's $21 billion chest. The press complaints commission is the industry's "self regulation" body, paid for by the newspapers themselves.

    They will get away with this.

    This skullduggery that News International paid private investigators to carry out; hacking, wire fraud, misrepresentation, etc, has been going on for at least a decade. One of the victims mentioned, Charlotte Coleman's, died in 2001 when they paid for someone to obtain a list of friends and family from her parents phone. Victims include TV celebrities, Royal family members, CEOs and members of parliament. These people paid someone to put a camera in a room where Max Mosley(67) was having sex. They printed some of it next to the regular outrages they print every single day. There is absolutely no limit to what these people will do.

    They will get away with this.

    The culture that brought this about is worst at the News of the World newsroom, but it is by no means confined to that place. It's pervasive throughout Murdoch's publications, and probably beyond. News International papers, the Mirror, the Daily Mail, the Observer, the list goes on. Steve Whittamore's(the private investigator) papers show over 13,000 from over 300 journalists. And this is all from only one such man. Who knows how many other investigators exist, an industrialized cottage industry for illegal snooping.

    They will get away with this. The culture runs too deep, and is too established. Too many newspapers are in on it. Too many people have too much dirt and are all too ready to print it if anyone tries to reign in a media that has grown so grossly over-mighty. Nothing is sacred, no one is safe, and no one can defend themselves from the hounds that the moguls can set upon them. What chance does anyone have if CEOs and MPs phones are being tapped?

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you, Your Fourth Estate.

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    1. Re:They will get away with this. by Khyber · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know, instead of trying to resolve things the LEGAL way, which obviously is not working, how about we take out Mr. Murdoch? (mm straight to his head.

      Give me the gun, I'll fucking do it myself. That will send a MAJOR message across the globe to anybody else that would want to fuck with our privacy.

      Martyrdom isn't that bad if done for a just cause.

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  17. Re:Basic security by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, they share no blame at all. They are victims, lets not blame them.

    Lets not buy into the shared fault crap that was started by the insurance companies so they wouldn't ahve to pay out on car insurance claims.

    Be default we should be able yo leave our doors unlocks, the keys in our car, our windows open, and not ahve to worry about being a victim of a crime.

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