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YouTube Phasing Out Support For IE6

Oracle Goddess sends word that YouTube is presenting IE6 users with a banner exhorting them to upgrade to a modern browser, and TechCrunch is reporting that YouTube will be phasing out support for IE6 soon. This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net at the imminent demise of this most despised and non-standards-compliant browser. The market share for IE6 is now well down in the single digits.

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  1. I *WISH* it was down in the single digits by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My experiences with large corp and gov't clients tells me otherwise.

  2. Re:I don't know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, you're saying it was a decent browser in all ways except what truly makes a decent browser decent?

  3. Re:Market share by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That doesn't justify that many people browsing the reference site using your test browser. People aren't mistakenly using IE6 to look up the HTML reference, they're using IE6 because that's what they always use. Look at the usage numbers, Firefox is almost at 50%, Chrome is already at 6%. That is indicative of web developers, not using a browser that is 9 years old. Web developers might be more likely to have IE6 installed, but they're not going to browse with it. Web developers are more likely to have a favorite browser to do all of their normal tasks in, and they'll use that one.

    Also, I'm a web developer and don't have IE6 installed, on any of my machines. I have access to it, but not on any computer I use on a regular basis. The debugging tools in IE8 are much better for web developers than having IE6 available to test on.

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  4. Last I checked, I couldn't upgrade by shawnmchorse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    IE7 doesn't run on Windows 2000.

  5. Re:I don't know... by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IE6 was a decent browser, aside from the fact it was a pain to code for and insecure.

    Car analogy:

    IE8 is your your new car. It runs smooth, and there are no real complaints about the reliability. The seats are little on the hard side, and you'd like more leg room.

    IE6 is your old car. It broke down every other week, belched poisonous black smoke into the cars around it, and the doors didn't close properly. But the seats were soft and you had more leg room.

    Your old car was 'decent' the same way IE6 was decent.

    And lets face it, IE8's UI isn't terrible. You might not be used to it, or like it as much, but its objectively not all that bad. They've moved things around, and hid a lot of stuff almost nobody used. But the tab support and integrated search alone make the UI superior. I don't find it slow (but I have lots of RAM). I still prefer Firefox, but I no longer loathe using (or developing for) Internet Explorer.

  6. Re:Market share by wjousts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree. That number must be completely made up. Lot's of corporations still have IE 6 as their "corporate IT approved" browser. I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they don't work in anything else.

  7. Re:Praise Jeebus! by martas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    quit. now.

  8. Re:Support? What do you mean, support? by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Exactly what I was going to say. Provide a simple link to a video file and even lynx could view Youtube.

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  9. Re:Market share by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IE7 and IE8 have both been declared critical updates by MS, so only home users who really hate IE7/8 and know enough to manually deselect that update, or users whose automatic updates are disabled or broken would still have IE6. This number probably isn't zero; but it isn't huge.

    And Windows 2000 users.

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  10. Twitter by Pulse_Instance · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This Twitter search reflects the jubilation breaking out all over the Net

    All that twitter search shows is that people who use twitter are commenting on it. It does not show jubilation breaking out all over the Net.

  11. Re:If you get rid of IE6, you will rid also Win2K by mike260 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You refuse to use XP, Vista, Linux, Opera and Firefox, but IE6 is peachy-keen?
    Lol.

  12. Re:Market share by gravyface · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or they could roll-out FireFox (with NoScript) as the default browser using Group Policy with FireMotion's FireFox MSI and create shortcuts on the desktop with a target of "iexplore http://your.wretched.old.internal.app.com/".
    More security, same ol' craptastic IE6 "experience" for your internal apps.

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  13. Re:Market share by eobanb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're complaining about a supposed need for multiple browsers and then your example is a site that YOU built that only works with IE7? Seriously?

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  14. Legacy systems by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And who cares about corporations who refuse to move on from a tool that even the creator has killed off?

    You do. Forget Windows and IE - do you have ANY idea how many POS (Point Of Sale) systems there are out there that still rely on DOS? The answer will scare you. "Upgrading" software is an expense and a potential business risk. Sometimes the rewards are not worth the expense. I have clients that have computer systems that are 10, 15 and even 25 years old and not about the be replaced anytime soon. You can make a very profitable living maintaining and integrating legacy systems and there are lots out there.

    Survival of the fittest always wins, always.

    And what, pray tell, is your definition of fittest? Unfortunately I can think of many definitions of fittest that don't equal best, modern, up-to-date, robust or (sadly) secure.

    Why the hell don't some companies allow the use of another browser?

    Cost mostly. Typically they have some old code that will cost money to update and they can't make a business case to do it yet. Usually they'll upgrade in due time but it might take years or even decades.

  15. Re:Except IE is the only one that works with YouTu by Ilgaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Funny is they don't figure what actually made youtube succsessful.

    Youtube would work in any browser which manages to run Flash in it. That is the trick. Nothing else needed. If Flash runs, Youtube is there even including mobile browsers (e.g. Nokia).

    Can't IE really display comments and Google ads? That is all needed for youtube. Flash works in its own way, glory days of "live script" is over really. Sad but true.

    IE 6 is still used on large corporations and there is no chance you will be able to "upgrade to chrome" unless you want a visit from BOFH with your manager asking what the hell you are trying to achieve. Yes, a managed client these days won't just stop you, it will also alert admin via security solution, "attempt to install unauthorised software" in recession would be a nice excuse for them.

    Oh BTW, unless some miracle happens and a open source/standard commitee invents something which will be a 1.1 MB download, without any dictation of software, completely supported in number 1 pro design suite and various pro video authoring/serving solutions, Flash is there to stay.

    HTML5 video would have a huge chance if they were wise to adopt H264 as standard and Dirac as optional codec. Also publicly bitching/whining/attacking both Apple and Adobe which are called "mecca of multimedia" won't really help.