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Novel Algae Fuel-Farming Method Gets Big Backing

Al writes "Dow Chemical has given its backing to a Florida startup called Algenol Biofuels that hopes to produce commercial quantities of ethanol directly from algae without the need for fresh water or agricultural lands. Dozens of companies are trying to produce biofuels from algae, mostly by growing and harvesting the microorganisms to extract their oil. Algenol has chosen instead to genetically enhance certain strains of blue-green algae, also known as cyanobacteria, to convert as much carbon dioxide as possible into ethanol using a process that doesn't require harvesting to collect the fuel. Algenol's bioreactors are troughs covered by a dome of semitransparent film and filled with salt water that has been pumped in straight from the ocean. The photosynthetic algae growing inside are exposed to sunlight and fed a stream of carbon dioxide from Dow's chemical production units. The goal is to produce 100,000 gallons of ethanol annually."

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  1. Awesome to hear! by electrosoccertux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets just hope the corn lobby doesn't catch wind of this...

    1. Re:Awesome to hear! by schmidt349 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    2. Re:Awesome to hear! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I agree this type of stuff is the least worst choice, but something about genetically modified bacteria designed to produce fuel, in the ocean gives me the creeps.

      It is producing alcohol. It is spending a part of its energy budget into producing alcohol, which is totally useless for reproduction and survival. Thus out in the wild it will be swamped out by the regular bacteria. Remember the currently bacteria living in the ocean have been fighting it out for some 3 billion years and they are as fine tuned to optimum as they can get. Any deviation from it is likely to fall at a suboptimal point in the fitness landscape. Any large deviation like producing alcohol is really a saltation. It will land it so far off the starting point in the fitness landscape it is likely to be much much lower than optimum.

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    3. Re:Awesome to hear! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Informative

      You should have read TFA. Sometimes there are more details in it.

      The salt water isn't pumped out. The alcohol evaporates into the air at the top of the bioreactor and is skimmed off. The bioreactor does produce fresh water as a "waste product" but presumably they seem rather optimistic about finding a better use for that than dumping it in the ocean.

  2. Sources of Ethanol by Frigga's+Ring · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good for Dow. It's probably about time some company jumped on this. I'm just waiting for one of the big oil companies to shut them down so they can go back to using expensive corn crops for ethanol. I mean, corn? Really? Couldn't they have come up with anything more costly that produces less ethanol? Oh! Coming in 2015 from Shell: puppy ethanol!

    1. Re:Sources of Ethanol by nevergleam · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was listening to NPR's All Things Considered yesterday (7/15/09) and they had a profile on a California start-up developing algae-sourced fuel in partnership with Exxon-Mobil.

      Oil companies aren't stupid. They invest heavily in all of the R&D for these alternative sources of fuel so they can oligopolize it when any of the research produces something practical.

  3. Ok for a tech demonstration by afidel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But less than 2,400 barrels of ethanol (~1,600 barrels of oil) is such a small drop in the bucket as to be laughable (The US consumes ~21M barrels a day!). Of course scale it up and feed it the output of some GW scale coal plants and you are starting to make at least some impact.

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  4. Pour me another glass by idontgno · · Score: 4, Funny

    of that pondscum whiskey.

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  5. Water/Coastal towns, sewage, animal feed? by wonkavader · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From TFA: "Every gallon of ethanol made creates one gallon of fresh water out of salt water."

    This sounds interesting. If this can be cheaply scaled up, it sounds like coastal towns all over the developing world would want to become gas providers for more inland towns -- it solves their water problem at the same time as it solves their cash flow problem.

    I suspect there is a lot of distillation in the process as well, to purify the alcohol. So this sort of system would couple well with hot equator sun and passive solar systems.

    All this makes me wonder: how much human waste can you pour into the system to fertilize the algae? Can this system be used to solve that problem, too?

    And what do you do with the algae? Once you have a full tank, you just want to maintain the status quo, but the algae will continue to reproduce. Could the excess turn into an animal feed?

    1. Re:Water/Coastal towns, sewage, animal feed? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nothing quite so exotic- the salt is going to end up a toxic byproduct of this process. The rest is just solar-based distillation- salt water + algae + sun -> fresh water + ethanol, which is then further distilled down into it's component parts.

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    2. Re:Water/Coastal towns, sewage, animal feed? by Zerth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm sure the EPA or other agency has an "allowable salinity" restriction on water dumped into the ocean. If it is less than, say, double the normal salinity, they'll probably just stick it back in the ocean.

      Otherwise, they'll probably sell it as "Organic sea salt, purified by cute widdle ocean organisms".

  6. Re:100,000 gallons = drop in the bucket (SSIA) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Note, the only reason I repeat myself is that I get this message when I try to leave out the body:
    "Cat got your tongue? (something important seems to be missing from your comment ... like the body or the subject!)"

    I think you mean, "I tried to post like an idiot by putting my message in the subject field, but Slashdot tried to save me from myself. I'll show them by being an idiot anyway!".

  7. Also in the news: Exxon backing Synthetic Genomics by matrix+mechanic · · Score: 5, Informative

    And here I thought this was going to be about Exxon backing Synthetic Genomics. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/business/energy-environment/14fuel.html Algae fuels are just so hot right now!

  8. Where's the downside? by Gre7g · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, we could hook up the CO2 exhaust from a coal-fired plant, use that to grow algae, and then turn algae into fuel? And as a "dreadful" side-effect, we get clean water from sea water?

    Greenhouse gas reduction, renewable fuel, and fresh water...

    Why aren't we focusing everything we have on such a process? It sounds too good to be true.

    1. Re:Where's the downside? by afidel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, but if we get twice as many useful BTU's per ton of CO2 we have effectively halved our CO2 output.

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    2. Re:Where's the downside? by SirGarlon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It sounds too good to be true.

      It is. The CO2 from the coal-fired plant would not go away. It would be converted into ethanol and then released back as CO2 when the ethanol was burned.

      The reason some people are so excited about bio-fuels is they are supposedly "carbon neutral." They take CO2 out of the atmosphere, then release it back when burned. If one were to use CO2 from coal combustion instead, then the CO2 stored in the alcohol is coming out of the ground. In other words, inserting algae into the coal -> atmosphere chain does not change the carbon balance, only interrupts it.

      It is possible that adding algae into the chain could make energy production more efficient (more joules of energy per ton of total CO2 emissions) and may still be worth doing.

      My concern is that the coal plant owner would convince the general public (who by and large do not understand such basic scientific laws as conservation of mass) that their CO2 is a "green energy source" and therefore should not be taxed/capped as a greenhouse gas. In other words, using coal exhaust to feed the algae is basically playing a shell game -- "which one has the CO2 under it now?"

      The point to remember is that bio-fuels do not provide a net benefit to CO2 reduction. Ever. They're simply carbon neutral or approximately so.

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  9. Welcome to our next ecological disaster by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) Dow makes magic algae.
    2) Economic pressure forces Dow to make algae directly excrete ethanol in high concentrations (about 20%).
    3) Algae gets into environment
    4) Algae kills almost anything near it.
    5) Algae lives on rotting stuff it killed.
    6) Water around algae becomes flammable, sparked by lightning. Fires ensue.
    7) Worldwide, waterways and oceans become alcohol laden.
    8) Dolphin's social life improves remarkably.
    9) Whales start singing a *lot* more.
    10) Seals start coming ashore, seeking bars when their algae supply runs out. Barfights ensue. The ACLU gets involved. Punching seals is declared a hate crime.
    11) Growing algae becomes illegal. Everyone grows it anyway. California semi-legalizes "medicinal algae."

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  10. Re:$1.25 a gallon? by tsotha · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $1.25 a gallon is about twice the spot price for methanol, and $1.25 isn't what they can do, it's what they hope they can do eventually.

    But remember they're using C02 as an input to the process. If cap and trade goes through this would allow them to sell or avoid buying carbon credits for other processes. I think C02 is a relatively common by-product in industrial chemistry. $1.25 isn't too bad if the cost of one of the inputs is negative.

    Also, don't underestimate the value of a continuous process. The big knock on batch processing isn't the cost of the press, but rather the complication (and cost) it adds to scaling the process. It's the biggest reason we see all those little pilot projects that seem promising but never go anywhere.

  11. Re:from a 24 acre demonstration plant by dfm3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    For reference that would require the entire east coast be filled to ~55 miles inland.

    Ever driven across the central part of the US? There's lots of corn... 87 million acres, or about 136,000 square miles, actually. Now, I know not all of that corn is used for ethanol production. However, there are large swaths of land in the US within reasonable distance of an ocean which aren't much use beyond growing pine for timber (like coastal areas of North Carolina or Texas) because they're not suited for growing other crops. This could be a much more efficient use for such land.

    Plus, not all of that 24 acres is actually producing ethanol. We're talking 3100 tanks that take up 250 square feet each, or about 17.79 acres. As this technology matures and as farms are scaled up, you'll likely see increased output per acre.