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Choosing Better-Quality JPEG Images With Software?
kpoole55 writes "I've been googling for an answer to a question and I'm not making much progress. The problem is image collections, and finding the better of near-duplicate images. There are many programs, free and costly, CLI or GUI oriented, for finding visually similar images — but I'm looking for a next step in the process. It's known that saving the same source image in JPEG format at different quality levels produces different images, the one at the lower quality having more JPEG artifacts. I've been trying to find a method to compare two visually similar JPEG images and select the one with the fewest JPEG artifacts (or the one with the most JPEG artifacts, either will serve.) I also suspect that this is going to be one of those 'Well, of course, how else would you do it? It's so simple.' moments."
Run the DCT and check how much it's been quantized. The higher the greatest common factor, the more it has been compressed.
Alternatively, check the raw data file size.
I mean, you don't want second rate pictures in your pr0n stash?
I had problems building it back then, let alone writing the scripts for it and the hassle of figuring out which images were duplicates, but this utility seems to fit the bill.
First, make a bumpmap of each image. Then, render them onto quads with a light at a 45 degree angle to the surface normal. Run a gaussian blur on each resulting image. Then run a quantize filter, followed by lens flare, solarize, and edge-detect. At this point, the answer will be clear: both images look horrible.
There are 0x40000000 types of people: those who understand 32-bit IEEE 754 floating point, and those who don't.
I don't know about "quality", but frankly it shouldn't be too hard to compare similar images just by doing simple mathematical analysis on the results. I'm only vaguely familiar with image compression, but if a "worse" JPEG image is more blocky, would it be possible to run edge detection to find the most clearly defined blocks that indicates a particular picture is producing "worse" results? That's just one idea, I'm sure people who know the compression better can name many other properties that could easily be measured automatically.
What a computer can't do is tell you if the image is subjectively worse, unless the same metric that the human uses to subjectively judge a picture happens to match the algorithm the computer is using, and even then it could vary by picture to picture. For example, a highly colorful picture might hide the artifacting much better than a picture that features lots of text. While the "blockiness" would be the same mathematically, the subjective human viewing it will notice the artifacts in the text much more.
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
Except for Lossless JPEG standardized in 1993. But other than that, no there is no lossless jpeg.
There was a old story my AI teacher used to share back in college about a military contractor that was developing an AI based IFF (identifcation, friend or foe) system for aircraft.
They trained it using what was, at the time, a vast picture database of every aircraft known. In the lab, they were able to get it down to 99% accurate, with the error favoring 'unknown' as the third option.
So they took it out for a test run. The first night out the system tried firing on anything and everything it could lock on, including ground targets.
This was bad. Horribly bad. But they were certain that there was some sort of equipment failure going on. After all their AI was damn near perfect at ID'ing the targets in the lab, the issues must be up the line somewhere.
So they did a once over of the equipment and couldn't find a problem. Not sure what to do next the team took the system out for another dry run the next day. This time, the system refused to see any ground targets and anything it saw in the air was friendly.
Now this was getting ridiculous, the team was extremely confused. So they did what they should have done the first time around, they did a third test run looking at what the AI was actually 'thinking'.
And promptly discovered the problem. While they had a huge database of images to use, they realized that all their 'friendly' craft had pictures taken during the day, while in flight. All their 'hostile' craft however were pictures that had been taken at night during spy runs or from over head satalite shots.
The AI wasn't keying off the planes, it was keying off whether it was daytime or night time.
I don't know if the above actually ever happened, but my point is, it doesn't matter how many images you seed your database with. Unless you are there to tell it what is an artifact and what is just part of the picture, you are going to end up with horrible results and comical results.
AI or small utility... You never know with computers ;)
Analogies don't equal equalities, they are merely somewhat analogous.
Since the mods haven't noticed, and I don't have mod points, let me point out that THIS POST HAS THE ANSWER. A real program that will do what the asker wants. The source is available, but I can't seem to find its license (it includes some of the Independent JPEG Goup's code). Also, doesn't a jpeg's EXIF data or some other tag in the file tell you what quality it was saved at?
The government can't save you.
Try file size on the set of images of interest to you and see if it coincides with your intuition. If it does, you're done.