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Amazon Pulls Purchased E-Book Copies of 1984 and Animal Farm

Oracle Goddess writes "In a story just dripping with irony, Amazon Kindle owners awoke this morning to discover that 1984 and Animal Farm had mysteriously disappeared from their e-book readers. These were books that they had bought and paid for, and thought they owned. Apparently the publisher changed its mind about offering an electronic edition, and apparently Amazon, whose business lives and dies by publisher happiness, caved. It electronically deleted all books by George Orwell from people's Kindles and credited their accounts for the price. Amazon customer service may or may not have responded to queries by stating, 'We've always been at war with Eastasia.'"

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  1. Whatever The Party says by acrobg · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...must be the complete truth. Or else the thought police will come get you.

    1. Re:Whatever The Party says by Techmeology · · Score: 5, Informative

      Instead coming to get me, wget http://www.planetebook.com/1984.asp and http://www.asiaing.com/animal-farm-by-george-orwell.html I'm no legal expert (I gave up on trying to understand the law), but these novels are impiratable since their copyright has expired (well, I think they have anyway). Even if they weren't if Amazon and publishers will do things like this, then they deserve all the piracy they wget! --- Mod this one up, rather than either of my two comments.

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    2. Re:Whatever The Party says by Badge+17 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Okay, let's turn down the rhetoric a couple of notches. There are two aspects to this -

      1) This does not appear to be a case where the publisher just "changed their minds." 1984 and Animal Farm are, through the usual idiocy, under copyright in the US but not in other countries, so someone re-publishing the text without paying the copyright licensing is breaking the law, and Kindle customers have, in effect, been sold "stolen" property. (Equivalent: buying software that illegally includes GPL code). If you buy a stolen ipod, it can get confiscated by the police.

      2) However, this does reveal a pretty worrying tendency to kill books first, clarify later. If Amazon had just sent out refunds, plus notes that "Due to an oversight, if you are in the U.S., this version of 1984 is unauthorized," that would have seemed sensible.

      My suggestion - use the Kindle if you like (I love mine), but backup your books, strip the DRM, and pirate shamelessly. Casual piracy adds features to ebooks - the ability to lend and trade books, which is how we all got hooked in the first place.

  2. haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    fuck kindle. buy real books and support real trees

    1. Re:haha by TheRon6 · · Score: 5, Funny

      buy real books and support real trees

      If by "support" you mean "dismember and ground up," then yes.

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  3. For your convenience by rlp · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Kindle is now equipped with a memory hole.

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  4. With DRM by Shikaku · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You always lose. This is just another example.

  5. Legally, how? by SkankinMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This seems extremely shady legally. You bought and paid for something. Electronic or not, how do they have the right to take it away from you? I could MAYBE understand if it was a subscription-based service in which you had access to a collection, but for them to take this away from someone who specifically bought the book seems legally dubious at best.

    1. Re:Legally, how? by calmofthestorm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This happens all the time (the Major Leage Baseball deletions, Microsoft's older DRM, etc). The difference here is that Amazon was generous enough to refund the price; usually the company just keeps it because "all sales are final".

      Personally I think they should be banned from using the word sale; indefinite rental is more accurate.

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    2. Re:Legally, how? by whterbt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's because you paid money for access to DRM-protected content. You didn't buy shit. It's their device (you paid money for the use of it), their content (you pay a fee to get to view it). At no time did they actually give you anything.

      It's just like a DVD. What are you paying $20 for? Is it for the right to view the content? If it were, then you should be able to get a cheap replacement when the disc fails, right? Well if it's not that, then you paid for the copy of the movie, I suppose? But then, why can't you make a copy?

      Pay money for DRM'd content and you'll get exactly what they want to give you - smoke and mirrors.

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    3. Re:Legally, how? by lymond01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The relevant part:

      Upon your payment of the applicable fees set by Amazon, Amazon grants you the non-exclusive right to keep a permanent copy of the applicable Digital Content and to view, use, and display such Digital Content an unlimited number of times, solely on the Device or as authorized by Amazon as part of the Service and solely for your personal, non-commercial use. Digital Content will be deemed licensed to you by Amazon under this Agreement unless otherwise expressly provided by Amazon.

      They contradict themselves with the use of "permanent copy" and "will be deemed licensed to you". If you read that last line, it doesn't even make sense. "It will be deemed licensed to you unless otherwise provided by Amazon"? That's poor grammar at best. I think what they mean to say is, "You get the license unless we take it back," but that's not what they've written.

      Regardless, whether to force someone to sell you something is legal under their "terms of service", it's bad business. As this story grows, I can see e-bay piling up with Kindles.

  6. The author has been dead for 60 years! by Snaller · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How can there still be a copyright on this?

    No wait - politicans of course.

    But more to the point SHOULD there be a copyright on something from that long ago?

    And if someone says it is public domain, how can they not only sell it but also deny people right to use it?

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    1. Re:The author has been dead for 60 years! by darkmeridian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In the US, you can thank Disney for copyrights being extended to death of author plus seventy years. Orwell died in 1950. For corporate authorship, it is 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication, whichever endpoint is earlier

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  7. Class Action Lawsuit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please, oh, please, Kindle owners sue! This would make for an interesting case. If the property in question were concrete like a lawn mower that I purchased at Home Depot, HD decides they want it back so they pull it from my back yard but credit my account isn't that still theft? I'm dying to see what is made of this.

    I can see Amazon no longer allowing it to be purchased for download but actively pulling content that has already been purchased and downloaded sounds criminal.

  8. Why Buy it When you Can Get it Legally for Free? by basementman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Who would buy a book from a publisher and sales person who think it's okay to sell you DRM crap and then take it away on a whim when you can get those exact same books legally, and for free?

    Animal Farm: http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100011.txt

    1984: http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

  9. Stick with dead tree editions.. by Dr_Ken · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For stuff you really want to have access to permanently.

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  10. Forced to download edits to books by digitalderbs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was quite surprised when an automatic update for a copy of the Stand (Stephen King) was pushed onto me, without my consent and without notification as to what had changed. Backup copies aren't hard to make. But who owns the copy? Does Amazon own my Kindle? Do I not have a right to refuse an update?

  11. Stay away from the Kindle! by YA_Python_dev · · Score: 5, Informative

    For "$DEITY" sake, don't use, buy or recommend to anyone the Kindle!

    It was designed from day one to be enable Amazon to fuck you and this is exactly what happened. I'm not surprised.

    An alternative ereader with better hardware, open architecture and NOT defective by design is the iLiad by iRex. Yes, it runs Linux and you can install third-part programs. And, yes, it costs a little more, but if you value your freedom (and your books) it's more than worth it.

    Disclaimer: I don't work for iRex, I'm only an happy customer.

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    1. Re:Stay away from the Kindle! by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

      Error $DEITY undefined.

      I'm atheist you insensitive clod.

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    2. Re:Stay away from the Kindle! by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe I'm confused, but I thought the atheists defined it as an empty string, while the agnostics leave it in an undefined state.

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    3. Re:Stay away from the Kindle! by YA_Python_dev · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not to nitpick, but 1984 and Animal Farm aren't available for the iRex at all. Not legally anyway. And if they are, I will certainly mod you up for linking me to them.

      They are legally published by Project Gutenberg Australia (see: George Orwell). Depending on how sane is copyright law in the country where you live it may be illegal for you to read them, and/or you may be legally allowed to buy a DRMed copy and convert it to a non-DRMed format.

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  12. Re:Not Big Brother. by John+Meacham · · Score: 5, Funny
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  13. Re:Not Big Brother. by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heard a rumour once that there was a remake of Rollerball, but fortunately I was mistaken.

    Along with other classic films like The Manchurian Candidate, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Ocean's Eleven, Psycho, The Shining, Death Race 2000 and even the Thunderbirds, I am happy to say that there was never a remake of Rollerball.

    La la la la la...

  14. Never! by Charan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What are you talking about? Amazon has never sold copies of 1984 or Animal Farm in digital format, and to suggest otherwise is treasonous.

  15. Re:All Geeks Unite by wickerprints · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have you read "Animal Farm?" If you have, you would know that the power of the people to unite against the power of corporations has long been extinct.

    You know what's going to happen? A small but vocal minority will heavily protest and boycott Amazon and the Kindle, while the vast majority of mindless consumers will continue to purchase their goods. Amazon could not possibly care less about this. As a large corporate entity they make money hand over fist. Eventually, if the Kindle becomes sufficiently popular and achieves critical mass, people will simply accept the ability to remotely revoke your ownership rights as part of the normal terms of usage of the device.

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    The exact same thing happens in Animal Farm. The government, which in actuality is ruled by a privileged elite, leverages the power of propaganda to exploit the worker class under the guise of improving the collective good. Dissent is not tolerated and mercilessly suppressed until the people simply accept the injustice as the reality of life. What the American public has largely failed to grasp is that Orwell's allegory of the dangers of communism is not a specific condemnation of this particular political ideology, but rather, of the dangers of an imbalanced power structure and a malleable, uneducated society. The modern-day corporation has supplanted the role of the communist elite. They are the true puppet masters in today's Western capitalist systems. We have quite vividly observed this phenomenon in the US government's reaction to the past year's economic debacle.

    What many people do not realize is that the game is already lost. Americans do not live in a democratic society founded upon the principles of liberty and justice, but an illusion of one, much in the same way that the proletariat class lived under Communism. The average American consumer is as much brainwashed as your typical North Korean.

  16. New fourth one by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ignorance is strength
    War is peace
    Freedom is slavery

    And the new fourth one:

    OWNERSHIP IS DISCRETIONARY

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