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Danish Expert Declares Vinland Map Genuine

MBCook writes "A Danish conservation expert named Rene Larsen has finished a 5-year study of the infamous Vinland Map and declared it genuine. 'All the tests that we have done over the past five years — on the materials and other aspects — do not show any signs of forgery,' he said at the press conference. He and his team studied the ink, the paper, and even insect damage. They believe that the ink, which was discovered in 1972 to contain titanium dioxide and thus supposedly was too new for the map to be genuine, was contaminated when sand was used to dry the ink."

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  1. Larsen != Larson by Zenzay42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The experts name is most probable not Rene Larson but René Larsen. As a Dane living in the UK, having a surname ending with sen, I'm proper fed up with having to spell my surname to everyone taking my name down. To me Larsen sounds Danish and Larson sounds Swedish. Sorry for rambling.

    1. Re:Larsen != Larson by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 5, Informative

      The source has him as Larsen, also here is his work page.

    2. Re:Larsen != Larson by jgrahn · · Score: 5, Funny

      As a Dane living in the UK, having a surname ending with sen, I'm proper fed up with having to spell my surname to everyone taking my name down. To me Larsen sounds Danish and Larson sounds Swedish. Sorry for rambling.

      The normal Swedish spelling is Larsson.

      Larsen is a danish or norwegian guy. Larson is a scandinavian immigrant to the US, or a swede who wants to insinuate he has more money than some random Larsson. Larzon is a swede who's in the sleazier part of the entertainment industry.

    3. Re:Larsen != Larson by Bill+Currie · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't think you're the only one. Everybody thinks I'm a food. I even had the nickname MC in university. There has been maybe two times I didn't have to spell my name for somebody.

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    4. Re:Larsen != Larson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Population of Denmark: 5.5 million
      Population of Sweden: 9 million

      Out of curiosity, without scurrying off to wikipedia, could you differentiate a Punjabi name (130 million) from a Bengali (230 million) name?

      Or, not even leaving Europe, how about the difference between Ukrainian (50 million) and Russian (100 million)?

    5. Re:Larsen != Larson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yet they both mean exactly the same, son of Lars.

      Obviously Lars was leading a double life with a family in Sweden and a family in Denmark.

  2. Good Point... by Constantin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It reminds me of a problem my mum told me about in the art world: Verifying the authenticity of ancient scrolls has become virtually impossible due to the discovery of large quantities of paint supplies (dried ink especially) and paper in monasteries. Armed with "old materials", forgers only have to focus on getting the technique, etc. right since there is no means to catch them technologically; for example, carbon dating and similar techniques will give the "right" results. Thus, art historians and dealers in that field allegedly have to rely more and more on their eyes to spot bad technique...

    It would not surprise me if the Vinland map could have been constructed under similar circumstances (if that is what someone intended to do). I'm sure someone somewhere could have scared up some old ink and a hide to paint it on. It is or this reason that I guess so many folk are skeptical of the repeated maps from around the world that have come out "discovering" the Americas...

  3. Re:Fake. by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're saying the Vikings managed to develop clocks that could work at sea, didn't tell anyone, and then forgot about it for 500 years? Because prior to GPS, that was *still* the only way to get an accurate reading on longitude. Yes, there are other methods, but they don't work at sea, they only work at the time of known planetary events, and they are crude even when used correctly (far too crude to provide the resolution needed for detailed coastlines).

    And yet somehow, the Vikings could "probably" do it. With no supporting evidence whatsoever, you leap to "probably." Wow... Just wow...

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  4. Re:Leifur Eiriksson was Icelandic, definitely by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Leif Ericson is described as Norwegian because his grandfather and his father were born there. His grandfather was a murderer, so he fled to Iceland. His father was a murderer, so he fled to Greenland, where Leif was born.

    Calling them not Norwegian is like calling the Nazis who escaped to Argentina not German.

    And now that I have successfully Godwinned this argument, we are done.