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New Zealand Tree Stuck In Evolutionary Time Warp

sciencehabit writes "A eucalyptus-like tree from New Zealand is still waging a battle that should have ended over 500 years ago. The tree continues to sport evolutionary adaptations, such as barbed leaves, to protect it from a large, flightless bird known as a moa. There's just one problem: the moa went extinct around 1500 AD."

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  1. It isn't instant. by DarkNinja75 · · Score: 5, Informative

    And humans still have tailbones.

  2. In other related news... by MenThal · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...why do men still have nipples. Film at 11.

  3. Re:Wrong comparison ? by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    A register-limited processor from the 1970s is still waging a battle that should have ended over 150 months ago. The processor continues to sport evolutionary adaptations, such as compactly-encoded instructions, to protect it from a small, slow memory configuration known as 640K. There's just one problem: that configuration went extinct around 1990 AD.

  4. Lets do the Time Warp by retech · · Score: 5, Funny
    If you consider two facts this tree comes as no surprise:
    • Richard O'Brien, the creator of RHPS and the Time warp comes from NZ
    • NZ television is two seasons behind the rest of the world

    The tree is just keeping in step with it's environment.

  5. In other news... by johno.ie · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was discovered today that newborn humans still grow teeth. Scientists are baffled because the human species developed the technology to build smoothie machines 3 generations ago.

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  6. Re:It is a common misconception about evolution by funkatron · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could be design by comitee. I never really heard a good reason for choosing monotheism over polytheism.

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  7. Re:Easily explainable. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, please. The idea of a utopian ideal where "we've outgrown greed" is so funny in both evolutionary terms and biological terms it's... well, it's like thinking that randomness ill cause your hostess's underwear to jump several feet to the left for quantum uncertainty reasons. It can be amusing to discuss, but it isn't going to happen for "evolutionary" reasons. You'll just have to get her underwear moved the normal way, alcohol and fast talking.

  8. Re:Easily explainable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Look, as far as the tree is concerned, the defence is working - it hasn't been attacked by a moa for 500 years. Why would it change?

  9. Re:Easily explainable. by SteveFoerster · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about your kids go first. Then they can all work for my kids.

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  10. Re:Clever Modding by mR.bRiGhTsId3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would have assumed the plants kept their evolutionary advantages against herbivores because there is insufficient pressure to remove the spines on the leaves. Kind of like why we still have an appendix. Its useless, but appendicitis is sufficiently uncommon that there isn't enough evolutionary pressure to do away with it completely.

  11. Misunderstanding evolution by crmarvin42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In evolutioary term, all costs are relative.

    If, in the time that there have been no Moa to eat the plant, no genetic mutation has spontaniously developed that results in no thorns, then why would we expect these trees to have lost stopped growing thorns? Thorns are only expensive if some of your peers are not growing them and you are.

    Since these thorns appear to be a defining characteristic of this plants phenotype, and there has only been a small amount of time in which to evolve away from this phenotype (evolutionary time scales are a lot larger than 500 years), it's stupid to assume that they would have dissapeared by now.

    Evolution has no plan, it has no engineers deciding what the best design is now that the Moa are dead, it is the net effect of environmental selective pressures combined with the accumulation of small genetic point mutations over time that make one genetic line more likely to reproduce more prolifically, crossed with a whole lot of random chance.

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