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Company Claims Potential Magnification In Bio Fuel Production

duanes1967 writes "A company called Joule Biotech claims to have a breakthrough in biofuel production. Their process can create 20,000 gallons of fuel per acre per year at a cost of about $50 per barrel. 'Algae-based biofuels come closest to Joule's technology, with potential yields of 2,000 to 6,000 gallons per acre; yet even so, the new process would represent an order of magnitude improvement. What's more, for the best current algae fuels technologies to be competitive with fossil fuels, crude oil would have to cost over $800 a barrel says Philip Pienkos, a researcher at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, CO. Joule claims that its process will be competitive with crude oil at $50 a barrel. In recent weeks, oil has sold for $60 to $70 a barrel.'"

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  1. Re:Bullshit by Bombula · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oops, my bad, I read 40,000, not 20,000. So their actually at 10% efficiency, which while unlikely at least has the merit of not being theoretically impossible.

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  2. It isn't Algae... by meerling · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you've read the article, you will note that it states specifically that it doesn't use algae.
    It does say that the closest thing out there to what they do are ones that use algae.
    When the first cars were built, the closest thing to them was the carriage, but automobiles didn't use horses to power them.


    As to the people questioning as to whether they are using genetically engineered organisms, the article clearly states that they are.
    Yes, your fuel may soon come from a genetically engineered non-algal microbe.
    Sure, fine and all that, but I still want man portable fusion cells... Or maybe pocket antimatter. >^_^

  3. Re:From TFA by icebike · · Score: 3, Informative

    We simply need to tax fuel enough to establish a price floor that will encourage alternative investments. The Europeans are already there so now the US just needs to start increasing the tax rate

    Why?

    Why do you automatically assume that if the Europeans do something it must be right for every place on earth?

    If this breakthrough is for real, and it was developed in Cambridge Massachusetts USA, with the tax structure we have today, and nothing like it has appeared out or Europe with all its horrendous taxes, then where is the basis for your euro-centric view?

    How will pouring more tax dollars down social rat-holes help solve an energy crisis?

    Do I necessarily believe this announcements? No, not yet. Does that mean I should run to Europe and adopt every tax-grab they dream up? Of course not.

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  4. Let's do the math... by rayharris · · Score: 5, Informative

    Assumptions:
    - They can actually generate 20,000 gallons per acre per year
    - 1 gallon of biofuel will get you the same mileage as 1 gallon of gasoline

    US gasoline usage = 378,000,000 gallons/day = 137,970,000,000 gallons/year
    Source: http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html

    Area needed: 137,970,000,000 gallons/year / 20,000 gallons/acre/year = 6,898,500 acres = 10,779 sq.mi.

    Comparative area: Massachusetts is 10,555 sq.mi.

    So, we'd need an area slightly larger than MA to generate the needed biofuel. This may seem like alot, but...

    Farmland in US: 922,095,840 acres = 1,440,774 sq. mi.
    Source: http://www.ers.usda.gov/StateFacts/US.htm

    Percent farmland to convert to biofuel: 10,555 sq. mi. / 1,440,774 sq. mi. = 0.73%

    This isn't much, if you ask me.

    Now, for the financial incentive to do so:

    Value of 20,000 gallons of biofuel at $50/barrel: 20,000 gallons = 476 barrels * $50/barrel = $23,000

    Corn yield of one acre: 162 bushels/acres (Iowa)
    Source: http://www.extension.iastate.edu/agdm/crops/pdf/a1-14.pdf

    Value of 162 bushels of corn: 162 bushels * $4.77/bushel (Estimated 2008 Calendar Year Average) = $772.74
    Source: http://www.extension.iastate.edu/agdm/crops/pdf/a2-11.pdf

    So, converting one acre of corn farmland to one acre of biofuel farmland will increase the revenue from $773 to $23,000, a nearly 30-fold increase.

    So, this looks like it might be worth it depending on the cost of conversion and cost versus revenue. It'll certainly be interesting to watch.

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    1. Re:Let's do the math... by labnet · · Score: 3, Informative

      gallons, acres, miles, bushels.. ye gods man, don't you know the rest of the world is metric.

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