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EMI Only Selling CDs To Mega-Chains From Now On

farrellj writes "According to Zeropaid, record company EMI has been notifying small music stores that they will no longer be able to buy EMI CDs from EMI, and will have to buy product from mega-chains like Walmart. Independent record store customers are some of the most loyal music buyers around. You are not going to find the back catalog, what used to be the staple of the music business, at your local Walmart. One wonders when the music business is going to run out of feet to shoot?"

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  1. CDs? by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm 15

    What's a CD?

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    1. Re:CDs? by morghanphoenix · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought CDs were those coasters AOL used to send you.

    2. Re:CDs? by Itninja · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a Certificate of Deposit (ask your parents for details). I am still befuddled what this fiduciary tool has to do with EMI...maybe they are going bankrupt.

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    3. Re:CDs? by sopssa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People here seem to taking the "music industry is evil and outdated" thinking route again. However when I saw the title and summary, I couldn't but think that they're starting to see how internet distribution starts to dominate.

      So now they're cutting extra costs by only delivering physical media to the largest retailers, and maybe putting that effort into online sales. If so, for me this sounds good.

  2. Meh. Don't buy RIAA regardless of who's selling. by fyoder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    EMI is one of the big four RIAA member labels, along with Sony, Universal, and Warner. I stopped buying their shite ages ago, and I don't really care if I'm not buying it from a little store or a big one.

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  3. Artists involved... by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 5, Informative

    From EMI's website:

    New Music finds and develops new, exciting and successful music. Its record labels include Angel, Astralwerks, Blue Note, Capitol, Capitol Nashville, EMI Classics, EMI CMG, EMI Records, EMI Televisa Music, Manhattan, Mute, Parlophone and Virgin. Artists on EMI labels include Lily Allen, The Beatles, Beastie Boys, Coldplay, Depeche Mode, Doves, Gorillaz, Iron Maiden, Norah Jones, Massive Attack, Kylie Minogue, Katy Perry, Pink Floyd, Queen, Sir Simon Rattle, 30 Seconds To Mars, KT Tunstall, Keith Urban and Robbie Williams, as well as international artists such as Amaral (Spain), Camille (France), Empire of the Sun (Australia), Tiziano Ferro (Italy), Flex (Mexico), LaFee (Germany) and Utada Hikaru (Japan).

    Catalogue maximises the value of EMI's historic and extensive music assets. Seminal albums in EMI Music's catalogue include Hunky Dory and Aladdin Sane (David Bowie), Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band (The Beatles), Pet Sounds (Beach Boys), A Rush Of Blood To The Head (Coldplay), Birth Of The Cool (Miles Davis), Come Away With Me (Norah Jones), Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall (Pink Floyd), A Night At The Opera (Queen), OK Computer (Radiohead) and Songs For Swingin' Lovers (Frank Sinatra). EMI Music's Catalogue division also owns and runs the world-renowned recording studios Abbey Road in London and Capitol Studios in Los Angeles.

    There's also this page, with a more complete listing of artists.

    EMI's catalog includes some of the arguably best albums of all time, and some of the most popular current artists. I don't see any way how this will end well.

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  4. Well, no. by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are not going to find the back catalog, what used to be the staple of the music business, at your local Walmart.

    Well, no. But you won't find the vast majority of that at specialist retailers either, they don't have the space. They would order it for you, but everyone knows its easier (and frequently cheaper) to get it from amazon or their ilk. The web retailer own that long-tail retail space, and that's not going to change.

    Specialist records stores will have to survive solely on the quality of information and advice their staff can provide -- it's their only market advantage.

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  5. Re:What the hell? by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm obviously missing something here, how can this business model work when you're reducing your customer base?

    Ever hear of the 80:20 rule?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle
    "roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes"

    Hypothetically speaking, if 80% of the sales come from 20% of the retailers,
    then you can cut your logistics costs by dropping the underperforming 80% of retailers.

    I say "hypothetical" because we don't know EMI's real #s,
    and I realize it's not going to be a popular opinion, but
    if cutting 80% of retailers leads to more than a 20% reduction in costs...

    This had to be a high level decision and I'm guessing the bean counters won.

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  6. Onestops aren't walmart, this article is wrong by JudasBlue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One stops are mid level distributors that carry product from multiple labels. Somewhere the person writing this article got very confused by what is going on here.

    If you look at the article comments there is a guy there who is also pointing this out.

    Not saying EMI isn't annoying as are most of the labels, but this article is seriously confused.

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  7. Re:Meh. Don't buy RIAA regardless of who's selling by fishbowl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I stopped buying EMI products the day the Harry Fox Agency accused me of being a criminal for putting my own work on the web.

    Not only did I stop buying things from this company, I went from being an *avid* collector to them being *dead to me* and unlike some others, I never looked back.

    At the same time, I started discovering independent music, *many* genres with artists who are far more interested in getting their message out than getting a 1/16th cent royalty from you. Many of these artists benefit from being discovered -- not by a record producer but by YOU, the person who might become a fan after listening, and who might actually attend a concert, not at a megastadium but at a club or a festival.

    I don't really care what EMI does, or doesn't do. They are dead to me, and I do not believe in ghosts.

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  8. Re:What the hell? by BlueStrat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why would an aspiring artist go to EMI and have a limited reach when he could as well go to some competitor and be sold also to customers of small music shops?

    As a long-time musical artist & bandmember myself, I can tell you why. Most don't know any better. Most bands and artists are so desperate to "make it" that any label showing interest in them is considered as being offered the gold ring. They're sick and tired of playing dumpy bars and clubs and making $50-$75 a night, two or three nights a week, four sets a night. That's if they can actually stay booked steadily.

    One of the things that being signed gets you is that it opens up a whole new level of venues to play, with a whole lot more money. A band goes from a few hundreds of dollars a show to two or three thousand. Billboards and radio ads go up ahead of their appearances, and crowds increase. Merch sales skyrocket.

    The fact that the label that's offering them a contract doesn't distribute to independent record stores doesn't even enter the picture to their thinking.

    Again, that's not all musicians/bands/artists, but most that I've encountered in my many years in "the biz".

    Strat

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  9. Re:What the hell? by RDW · · Score: 5, Informative

    'Exactly, this is what already happens in other markets.'

    This is what already happens in the music industry. The zeropaid author has misinterpreted the original waynerosso article (which itself seems to be over-hyping the situation - see some of the replies to the post):

    http://www.waynerosso.com/2009/06/30/emi-to-mom-pops-eat-cake/

    This only states that EMI wants the independents to purchase from 'one stops' rather than directly from EMI. These 'one stops' are one stop wholesale distributors, not one stop retail stores like Walmart.

    From a post by 'chpthrlls' in the zeropaid thread:

    "this really isn't such a big deal. First of all "One Stops" DOES NOT mean Wal-mart and Best Buy. A one stop is a distributor that buys from the labels and sells to retailers. Most indie stores get their product from one stops anyway. Some labels do sell directly to larger indie stores that have a large volume, but this, and only this, is what EMI is halting. I should know, as I am an indie retailer. We have always used a one stop distributor, and will continue to do so. And F*CK Wal-mart!"

    From Jason Hughes in the waynerosso thread:

    "This is sort of a false story. EMI closed a few accounts that were doing minimal orders. No stores in Seattle, or in our coalition for that matter, were closed. The ones that were closed got 3 months written notice. I'm not sure where Wayne is getting his info but he should fact check it."

    From 'jack' in the waynerosso thread:

    "Wayne's post is inaccurate. Every year, all the labels take a look at their accounts and make changes. I know people at EMI and know EMI sent letters (back in February) to a handful of small physical retailers -- we're talking a fraction of a percent of their physical accounts -- and informed them they'd need to go through one-stops for product. They gave them months and months of notice and a list of options for one stops. They didn't just call them last minute as Wayne claims."

  10. Re:What the hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You lie! Slashdot reliably informs me that it is fine to pirate music whenever I feel like it, because musicians should make their money from live performances yadda yadda Beethoven yadda yadda player piano lawsuits yadda yadda.

    Now you're saying that doing live performances is very low-earning and doesn't provide a decent income unless you are famous enough to be already filling stadiums. That is just un-possible. Slashdot readers are famous for expertise in business management (which as we know is a lame activity done by jerks that is nowhere near as difficult or intellectual as installing software patches or writing v23332 of the companies timesheet software).

  11. Bullshit Misleading Spin on True Situation by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Informative

    Deliberately posting as near the start of the discussion as possible to link to this comment which makes clear that this whole story is blatantly misleading and relies on misintepreting EMI's position.

    From a post by 'chpthrlls' in the zeropaid thread via the linked comment: "First of all "One Stops" DOES NOT mean Wal-mart and Best Buy. A one stop is a distributor that buys from the labels and sells to retailers. Most indie stores get their product from one stops anyway."

    Even before I'd read the correct explanation, I'd already realised that this didn't sound plausible, even for the death-wish record industry. My initial guess was that EMI were making them buy through their distributors (as normally happens anyway) and someone had- either through ignorance and/or a vested interest in their own position- misinterpreted this as the "story" that we were presented with.

    I was right, and I'm neither a genius, nor work in the music industry.

    If I spotted this, why did Wayne Rosso, ZeroPaid or Slashdot themselves not figure this out and spend five minutes checking the facts?

    Oh yeah, I know. Never question it if it makes a good story, even when it's blatantly fishy to anyone with an ounce of common sense.

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