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A Hypothesis On Segway Hate
theodp writes "Admit it, IT is ingenious. Also, IT is surprisingly effective for certain uses, including real cops and mall cops. And if you tried IT, you probably smiled to yourself. So why all the Segway hate? Paul Graham looks into The Trouble with the Segway and offers a hypothesis about what prompts people to shout abuse at Segway riders: 'You look smug. You don't seem to be working hard enough.' Not that someone riding a motorcycle is working any harder, adds Graham, but because he's sitting astride it, he appears to be making an effort. When you're riding a Segway you're just standing there. Make a version that doesn't look so easy for the rider — perhaps resembling skateboards or bicycles — and Segway just might capture more of the market they hoped to reach."
Obviously, author has never ridden a motorcycle - he has absolutely no idea, what it takes to ride such thing. On motorcycle, you have a throttle, first brake, rear brake, 6 gears and clutch. To ride it, you have to (ok, don't have to but would be good) understand counter-steering. And on IT? lean yourself and twist the stick. That's all. Pfffff.
The hype was just mind boggling and there is no way Segway wil ever come close to match all the promises that were made.
The Segway "FAIL" is just another example of the dangers of overhyping a product before it gets to the market.
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You can't use a motorized vehicle on the sidewalk in most places.
You're out of your mind if you drive one in the street.
So where exactly are you supposed to ride them?
Indoors in a crowded place it's just an accident waiting to happen.
As a practical matter they are just toys for the few who can afford them.
Actually, a bicycle is not gyroscopically balanced. The angular momentum in the bicycle wheel is tiny compared to the overall mass and moment of inertia of bicycle and the rider. It's actually the rider's own sense of balance (whether the hands are on the handle or not) that keeps the bicycle standing, and which is why you have to learn to ride one.
This isn't to say, of course, that Segways are superior just because they use a gyroscope.
Because, on a bike, your manipulated variable is the handlebar's position. When driving, you adjust the handlebar so that the bicycle moves to the side, compensating disturbances. The control action is proportional to handlebar setting angle times speed (roughly), so if speed comes to zero you have no control action available. This is actually gradual: notice how at low speed, you turn the handlebar much more to maintain equilibrium.
If the bike were actually significantly gyroscopically stabilised, you could bump into a driving biker and see him come back to upright position without him doing anything. In reality, any biker in such a condition will counteract manually using the handlebar.
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If you are on a bike and bump me with your front wheel, you will quickly find yourself on your ass. Just what kind of person are you that you would allow yourself to be assaulted without responding with force to protect yourself? Perpetuating that geeks are pussies with that attitude. Grow a pair and knock the bicyclist off his bike and kick his ass if he bumps you with it.
Exactly, if the Segway was $700 or less, I'd consider one. But for $3000+, I could buy a motorcycle that would go faster, further and be a little more normal. Heck, for $3000 I could buy a high end racing bicycle and put an electric motor on it.
But, if you follow the footnotes (e.g., http://web.archive.org/web/20080213072335/http://www.losethetrainingwheels.org/default.aspx?Lev=2&ID=34 ) you will see that experiments have shown how insignificant those forces are.
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The ways in which it beats a bike aren't wildly useful, outside of niche applications; but there are some:
Stopping: a segway stops swiftly and can remain in place without extra effort by the rider or any loss of stability.
Turning: a segway can turn either on the move or entirely in place(being able to turn entirely within your own footprint is handy for tight areas).
Visibility: riding a segway gives you a few extra inches, generally enough to see across a crowd, that a bike typically doesn't.
Now, for most people, those advantages don't outweigh the costs of a whole bunch of fancy gyroscopes and some dirty looks; but for those that do need them(mall cops and tour groups, for instance, where takup has been pretty decent) they do count.
Here in the midwest you don't see a lot of segways, so I never heard of "segway hate" before; the only ones I've seen had cops on them. And a lot of people don't like cops at all no matter what's transporting them. Between crooked cops, cops with bad attitudes (like the one in Chicago that beat up the five foot tall woman bartender on camera and the one who beat a shackled man in a wheelchair, again on camera), to bad laws that good cops have to enforce, cops have gotten a bad name.
But if it was a civilian on a segway I think you hit the nail on the head. It's kind of like caddilac hate; it's a combination of envy and the smug, self-important "I'm better than you" attitude people who drive rediculously expensive cars have and the sociopathic way they're driven.
When the patent runs out you'll see $200 segways, and you this "problem" will go away.
The GP mentioned bicycles, I used to ride one untill I took a nasty spill on the way to work. I imagine a segway would be quite a bit safer than a bicycle. I'm looking forward to when they're affordable.
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In my jurisdiction (Cambridge, MA) the law is that you can bike on the sidewalk if you're traveling at a walker's pace. I quite like this rule, but it's not widely known so you still see morons zipping down a sidewalk when there's a perfectly usable bike lane painted on most of the major city roads. Also one of the lesser known laws... bikers have legal access to ANY car lane so if you're in a car and honking at somebody biking slowly in front of you then you're the moron.
I think what it really boils down to is that normal people have to adjust their behavior and be more cautious so they can accommodate the morons on the roads who are talking on their cell phones (yes, morons in cars, on bikes, and on their feet ALL do it and their lack of attention is a fault) and flagrantly breaking traffic laws. Though, one rare thing I've seen in my city is bicyclers getting pulled over by cops and issued $25 tickets for running red lights.
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