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US Marine Corps Bans Social Networking Sites

Q-Hack! writes "Citing security concerns, the United States Marine Corps has issued an order banning access to social networking sites like Facebook, MySpace and Twitter on its network for the next year. The Pentagon is now reviewing its social networking policy for the entire Department of Defense, which should be completed by the end of September, according to a report from CNN. The policy for the entire military is somewhat fragmented, as the Army ordered military bases to allow access to social media sites in May."

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  1. Re:You can shoot people, son, but don't blog! by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Informative

    They're aren't banned completely, the military just doesn't want it being done on their computers.

    I think that's completely understandable, those sites are very attractive vector for exploits.

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  2. Re:You can shoot people, son, but don't blog! by Anonymous+Cowar · · Score: 5, Informative
    Read the first line of the article:

    Citing security concerns, the United States Marine Corps has issued an order banning access to social networking sites like Facebook, MySpace and Twitter on its network for the next year.

    They're only blocking it at the office, not banishing the marines from using it when they're off duty. Myspace is blocked at a ton of offices, but nobody cries foul. Working for the marines for 9 out of 10 people, is a normal office job, you show up to work, sit in your cube, and do what needs to be done. After that, you go home and can do whatever you want when you're home. This isn't a big deal, they're just trying to keep the marines from twittering their day away.

    For the remaining 1 out of 10 who are stationed "over there," they may rely on the military for network access, but unless things have changed from 3 years ago, if you wanted internet over by baghdad, you had to arrange for your own satellite hookup and use your own computers. This connection was shared amongst a group of guys and was not managed by the military. These small hookups also wouldn't be influenced by the pentagon's orders either.

  3. Re:YRO by oodaloop · · Score: 3, Informative

    Marines are not soldiers. It's like calling someone who writes malicious code a hacker. Or something.

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  4. Re:YRO by KiltedKnight · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because they signed on the dotted line to uphold and defend the Constitution, they lose part of their free speech. The Uniform Code of Military Justice has clauses in it that make it a prohibit things like participating in rallies in uniform. The military is an extension of the government, therefore its members cannot "make statements." Official statements must come from the Public Relations officers. Anything else can and will be subject to censorship. Any ill spoken of the President is speaking ill of your commanding officer. It doesn't matter if you like him or not, he is your Commander-in-Chief. Don't put a bumper sticker (pro or anti) about a politician on your car if you're in the military either. Note that military service members are not prohibited from writing to their congresscritters. They are also allowed to vote. They are not permitted to run for office other than a local one (same goes for Reserve and Guard members). They are not permitted to campaign for a candidate at least while in uniform... I don't remember about out of uniform.

    There shouldn't be a problem with personal blogs or social networking, as long as they don't identify themselves as members of the military and restrict any comments about the government and its officials, the military, and their locations when deployed.

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  5. Re:The devil is in the details... by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 4, Informative

    I lived on a USMC base overseas for a number of years. Overseas, most US Service members live on the actual base. But they can buy internet, cable tv, and telephone service from private ISPs. The private ISPs, generally, don't block anything and the logs are not usually reviewed by US Government representatives.

    However, when the Marines are at work, they login to a US Government network. This network is firewalled and proxied at the base level. Base leaders decide what gets filtered here. Outside of the Base proxy, there is usually another Command level proxy or firewall. This is managed by (in the case of the USMC), the MC NOSC.

    So, at work, twitter and facebook are directed to be blocked. However, I've never seen a military network where facebook and twitter were allowed. So this order is nothing new; just codifying curreny, unwritten, policy.

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  6. Re:YRO by DrgnDancer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Two things:

    1) They are blocking these sites on GOVERNMENT NETWORKS. This is no different than your company blocking Twitter. These Marines remain perfectly free to use personal Internet connections however they see fit, assuming they don't pass on classified information. You do not rely upon government networks to provide you Internet access in barracks or housing. Even in Baghdad we had civilian Internet connections available to us.

    2) Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen do have rights, but not quite the same rights as you and I. When you join the military you contractually exchange your Constitutional rights for the rights granted by a code called the "Uniform Code of Military Justice" or UCMJ. You have most of the same rights as any civilian, but some are modified or taken away based on the realities of military operations. Upon leaving the service or existing active duty, you revert to the normal rights of citizens. The UCMJ is generally fair, and grants MOST Constitutional rights to service people, but one area where it is more restrictive than usual is Free Speech. You simply have more limited speech rights in the military than you do as a civilian. You agree to this as part of signing up.

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  7. Rather vague restrictions by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Informative
    If you read through to the actual notice from the marines you find that they don't name specific social networking sites to be blocked, rather they describe them as

    INTERNET SNS ARE DEFINED AS WEB-BASED SERVICES THAT ALLOW COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE TO SHARE COMMON INTERESTS AND/OR EXPERIENCES (EXISTING OUTSIDE OF DOD NETWORKS) OR FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO EXPLORE INTERESTS AND BACKGROUND DIFFERENT FROM THEIR OWN.

    And then proceed to say that they include

    EXAMPLES OF INTERNET SNS SITES INCLUDE FACEBOOK, MYSPACE, AND TWITTER.

    Though it seems that even sites like slashdot could be grouped under that definition. For that matter other sites like wnd.com or the Huffington post could potentially be grouped similarly.

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  8. Air Force not shy about blocking critial sites by alohatiger · · Score: 2, Informative

    I publish www.eDodo.org a humor site for Air Force Academy graduates and cadets. Of course, the Academy blocks us. It's a tricky issue, but the bottom line is that the cadet dorms are gov't property and they use a gov't network, so USAFA gets to filter them.

    The original Dodo magazine was an uncensored cadet publication. When the administration started censoring it, eDodo.org was born. I'm hoping more and more cadets get internet enabled smart phones to access the "free" internet.

    Back to the topic: The Academy doesn't block Facebook, and that's how we reach cadets now: www.Facebook.com/eDodo

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  9. Re:You can shoot people, son, but don't blog! by inviolet · · Score: 2, Informative

    Such Battlefield promotions [from enlisted to officer] are very rare outside of major theater combat wars. They generally occur when a unit has lost so many officers that it cannot function well.

    Yep yep. Lots of them during WWII and Korea. The men who did so were called 'Mustangs'.

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  10. Re:You can shoot people, son, but don't blog! by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2, Informative

    When you're on the job, you're on the job. Unless you're a professional blogger or some kind of pop culture researcher, chances are Facebook and Myspace aren't part of your job.

    The military is slightly different than your job. We are often "at work" 24/7 in places far far from home. Contact with the "real world" is one of the things that keeps us sane. That said, in my service branch, the Air Force, these sites have been banned from the official work network for at least 5 or 6 years. However, at deployed locations, there is almost always MWR computers for this purpose.

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  11. Re:You can shoot people, son, but don't blog! by russotto · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sure there are general orders to cover those situations.

  12. Re:You can shoot people, son, but don't blog! by pluther · · Score: 3, Informative

    For each assignment, there will be very specific rules of engagement covering when you can and cannot fire your weapon.

    A local approaching you with a visible weapon would certainly be one of the times you are allowed to do so, under almost all circumstances.

    A car approaching a checkpoint and not stopping when ordered to do so would be another.

    But no, no marine (or soldier, or sailor, or airman) is just given orders to fire at will when they arrive in country.

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  13. Re:YRO by SeaDuck79 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You really are a poorly read bigot, you know that? A study was recently done on the demographics of the U.S. military, and to the author's surprise, every socio-economic, geographic, racial, ethnic, religious, and gender group was represented in the military to a rough extent to its proportion in American society. Except one.

    Northeastern liberals were very underrepresented. Thankfully, people like you probably are, too.

  14. Re:You can shoot people, son, but don't blog! by haus · · Score: 3, Informative

    As a former Marine, I think that your numbers are way off. While for many in the Corps, when they are not forward deployed, they may be able to 'go home' at night (or for most the barracks). I do not think that more then a third would confuse their job with that of a traditional cubical dweller even when off deployment.

    Please note that in addition to current combat zones such as Iraq, and Afghanistan, many jar heads are working on deployments to other locations such as Japan and Cuba, where they are likely to be isolated from friends and family.

  15. Re:You can shoot people, son, but don't blog! by Xaositecte · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm a bit confused about the need for tech support, can't we just train users to NOT do stupid things that crash their computers?

    There's always that guy that ends up making a mistake anyways. Except, as pointed out above, mistakes over what information is and isn't safe to share over the public internet don't just crash computers. They can, potentially, cost lives.