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Twitter Faces Patent Infringement Lawsuit

Digital Dan writes "Twitter is being sued for patent infringement. Surprised? OK, probably not, but you'd think the plaintiff would at least wait for Twitter to actually make money before striking. According to TechCrunch: 'Twitter is being sued ... by TechRadium, a Texas-based technology company which makes mass notification systems for public safety organizations, the military, and utilities.' The abstract to patent #7130389 describes it: 'A digital notification and response system utilizes an administrator interface to transmit a message from an administrator to a user contact device. The system comprises a dynamic information database that includes user contact data, priority information, and response data. The administrator initiates distribution of the message based upon grouping information, priority information, and the priority order.' Two other patents are involved as well."

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  1. I for one... by santax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    think there is bound to be a bit of prior art here... like the teletext, sms, wordprocessors and even digital radiotransmissions. Who grants this stuf anyway?

    1. Re:I for one... by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      think there is bound to be a bit of prior art here... like the teletext, sms, wordprocessors and even digital radiotransmissions.

      At the very least the wall command comes to mind as prior art:

      http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?wall

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    2. Re:I for one... by Ardaen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      who grants this stuff? The same people that will control your health care if barack obama and the democrats have their way.

      An underfunded and understaffed department that could do a lot of good if properly run but doesn't due to neglect, abuse and cutbacks for which there are better run equivilants in other countries?

    3. Re:I for one... by YouWantFriesWithThat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      what the GP thinks is relevant.

      this isn't the court case. the GP doesn't need to produce citations just because you demand it. this is a bunch of people discussing the filing of the lawsuit. the nature of a casual discussion is to share opinions, not list facts. the GP is allowed an opinion. you are not the judge. get over yourself.

    4. Re:I for one... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just to expound on that a bit... there is a logical reason for it.

      Letting a bureaucratic patent examiner be the final arbiter of patent claims leaves the potential for errors with far-reaching (for the applicants) consequences, never mind the potential for abuse.

      The Patent Office's current practice seems to be "If everything appears to be in order, grant the patent -- any disputes can be settled in court".

      The reason this is a somewhat logical approach is because in court, both sides of the dispute have the ability to present their cases, which theoretically results in a fairer result.

      The downside, of course, is the cost (both public cost, and the litigants' costs) of hearings and/or trials. As usual, when lawyers write the laws and regulations, lawyers benefit from them.

      And while court costs and legal fees have a way of squeezing out the little guy, it's reassuring to me that patents can be argued in court, and applicants aren't *entirely* dependent on the whim of a patent examiner or two.

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  2. NET SEND by ThatSteve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe they can use net send to communicate the failure of their suit.....

  3. Re:I'm honestly surprised... by NecroPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, a patent troll is a company that exists solely for the purpose of patenting things and then filing lawsuits.

    This company, as they actually have products, is not such a troll; I make no statement as to the validity of their patent, or whether or not it should have been granted.

    As they aren't an NPE or NME, the normal defintion of patent troll doesn't apply.

    I do think it's rather dumb to sue a company that isn't making any money and has no real prospects for doing so, but that just makes them dumb too; not a patent troll.

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  4. Re:Not again by sixteenraisins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is it just me or does the concept of "mass notification systems that allow a group administrator or 'message Author' to originate a single message that will be delivered simultaneously via multiple communication gateways to members of a group of 'message Subscribers'" encompass things such as newspapers and cable TV?

    Yes, it does encompass those things, IMO.

    It does not I believe, include Twitter.

    Why?

    Because Twitter (1) does not use an administrator to originate a message, and (2) doesn't "deliver" a message. It posts a message, where it must then be retrieved. Push vs. pull. Big difference.

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  5. Re:I'm honestly surprised... by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do think it's rather dumb to sue a company that isn't making any money and has no real prospects for doing so, but that just makes them dumb too; not a patent troll.

    Why is it dumb? Presumably they have assets that could be taken to satisfy a judgment. Waiting until they start making millions of bucks and then filing your lawsuit would seem to be more questionable than just filing it. The former suggests that you are only in it for the money. The latter suggests that you may actually care about your patent.

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  6. Re:Not again by schon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because Twitter [...] posts a message, where it must then be retrieved. Push vs. pull. Big difference.

    I thought the whole "big thing" about Twitter is that it can send SMS messages to subscriber's phones? That's "push" pretty much by definition, isn't it?

  7. Re:I'm honestly surprised... by Restil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And don't forget the entire purpose of the patent in the first place... to provide the patent holder a limited duration monopoly on the products described by the patent. By suing, they can force twitter to shut down, or at least force them into a licensing agreement which will eliminate them as a competitor.

    Now, whether twitter actually IS a potential competitor, or whether the patent should have been granted in the first place, are completely different issues.

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  8. Re:I'm honestly surprised... by Teancum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The concept of patents for the designs of mechanical engineers seems to have at least the fundamentals of a good idea. It takes quite a bit of effort to get some mechanical device created, a process developed to make the thing, distributed to various retail outlets (or to potential customers for devices intended more for businesses than ordinary consumers), and the cash flow coming back to the group that made the thing in the first place.

    Keep in mind that the constitutional provision asserts that purpose of both patents and copyright is to "promote the useful arts and science".

    Where the problem has come in not only this case but a great many others is the expansion of the role of a patent to cover things like business methods, genetic sequences, computer software (originally unpatentable), and other more nebulous ideas and theoretical constructs that have nothing to do with an actual tangible item. None of these should have patent protection, and IMHO it is an abuse of constitutional authority to even grant these kind of patents.

    Furthermore, I would have to agree that patents in and of themselves, even in regards to mechanical patents, are a waste of government bureaucrats and courts. They don't do what they claim (protecting the independent entrepreneur/inventor), nor to they really provide any benefit for society as a whole, nor even promote scientific endeavors. I dare anybody to show an independent private "inventor" who creates something and makes money by selling the idea to some mega-corporation for royalties. It doesn't happen.