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Apple Balks, Finally Relents, At Possible User Queries of Dictionary App

Geoffrey.landis writes with a snippet from CNET reporting another example of offputting treatment at Apple's App Store: "'In this case, it's a dictionary app called Ninjawords (so called because ninjas are 'smart, accurate, and really fast') that was rejected three times over the course of two months, mostly because 'objectionable' words could be looked up and found in the dictionary's search function, Gruber reported.' PCWorld also reports the story." Note that the app was eventually approved, but only after a few go-rounds and changes.

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  1. Great... by hezekiah957 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So now I'll just have to Safari to look up the meanings of dirty words.

    1. Re:Great... by abshack · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, yeah. Apple has a strict policy against duplication of core functionality.

    2. Re:Great... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Strange. I looked up "duplication of core functionality" on Wikipedia, and it redirected me to "monopoly".

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  2. What is the solution ? by Tsiangkun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is the solution to censor the applications to which adults have access, or is the solution for parents not to give expensive iPhones to their immature children ?

    1. Re:What is the solution ? by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The solution is to tell Apple to fuck the hell off.

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    2. Re:What is the solution ? by mr_lizard13 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't understand what you mean.

      I looked up the word 'fuck' but I can't find it in my iDictionary.

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  3. 100% proof... by tacarat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pirates work at the Apple App Store.

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  4. Relents? by jpmorgan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you RTFA, it says the app wasn't approved until the 'objectionable' words were removed from the dictionary. And then it was slapped with a 17+. But I'm a charitable fellow, so I'll give Apple the benefit of the doubt and assume that the 17+ rating was a dadaist statement on literacy and education in 21st century America.

  5. If you mean did not relent, then yes by mikesum · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From TFA ,"The list of omitted words includes some which have utterly non-objectionable senses: ass, snatch, pussy, cock, and even screw." There is just so much crap involved with the app store, when the FTC come down on Apple it will be well deserved, unless they manage to bride their way out.

  6. Best Quote from TFA: by hivemind_mvgc · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Apple requires you to be 17 years or older to purchase a censored dictionary that omits half the words Steve Jobs uses every day."

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  7. Re:Good to see by iamhigh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Exactly.... I want my child to see as much of the world as possible. Look at the starving kids in Africa, look how stupid that guy looks when yelling profanities (and watch how I better handle the situation), look at the "gross" and "objectionable". And read every damn book that has ever been banned.

    The only way to raise a properly educated, informed, and morally "good" kid is to introduce them to the horrors of the world and let them decide what actions and materials are best for their life. If they have never seen the bad, they cannot appreciate the good.

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  8. Android = Open by blackfrancis75 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, dozens of comments so far on this one and I'm the first smug G1 owner to point out how open the Android system is. Did I mention it was open? open, open, open

  9. Re:Just who do they think they are anyway? by EvanED · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who appointed Apple to be the legal guardian and nanny of iPhone users?

    To be fair, the iPhone users did.

    Which is why I don't have an iPhone.

  10. Re:Good to see by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Exactly.... I want my child to see as much of the world as possible. Look at the starving kids in Africa, look how stupid that guy looks when yelling profanities (and watch how I better handle the situation), look at the "gross" and "objectionable". And read every damn book that has ever been banned.

    That's all good, but... goatse?

  11. This article is too forgiving. by Facegarden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This summary is way too forgiving!

    Apple went crazy with this one, far more than they have before.

    The summary says: "Note that the app was eventually approved, but only after a few go-rounds and changes."

    Yeah, the few go-rounds and changed included *Completely removing* words apple didn't like, including the word "ass" among other things.

    Note that the developer already went out of their way on the very first version of the program to prevent offensive words from coming up as suggestions for other things - i.e. typing "fuc" did not bring up "fuck" as a suggestion, you had to already know a profane word in order to see its definition.

    Apple still rejected it even with those modifications, and didn't approve it until certain words were completely removed, including fuck, shit, etc AND the developer had to give their program a 17+ age rating!

    This goes beyond apple's normal bullshit into a whole new level of bullshit.
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  12. Said perfectly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Reposted from the story site:

    shbc123 says:
    Wed Aug 05 13:24:53 PDT 2009

    Re: Apple Screws Up Again, Censors iPhone Dictionary App

    Should Apple not also censor what music can be placed on iPods? If they're truly doing this to maintain the sanctity of their phone, how can they justify allowing objectionable music on their music players - what music is able to be placed on iPods should also be dictated by Apple. What about on their computers themselves. Why don't they prohibit any objectionably programs to be installed on their Macintosh computers? Perhaps the next release of OS X should implement another level of parental controls - Apple controls, which would supersede parental controls.

    And then there's the claim that they reject certain apps because the provide features similar to ones already built in. Forgetting the fact that the user has already purchased the device, why can't a user decide for themselves who's implementation of a given feature they prefer? Following the same logic as above, why doesn't Apple police Macintosh applications? Firefox? Forget it, it provides functionality that's already available in OS X in the form of Safari. And again, what of their iPods. Why doesn't Apple police music available on their music players? So you want to listen to Pearl Jam AND Sound Garden? Sorry, Apple has determined they're too similar so you'll have to choose one.

    I'll admit to never being much of an Apple fan, but I must say I've really enjoyed my iPhone. But this nonsense must end. If it doesn't by the time my AT&T contract is up, I'll be shopping for a nice new Android phone. Thank you Apple. My first experience as a customer is quickly turning sour.

  13. Is this affecting developers? by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have downloaded the Xcode development environment, and lately I've been working on a cool idea for an iPhone app. The more stories I read like this, though, the more I'm wondering whether or not I want to bother.

    I've already been jerked around by Apple in regards to this. I have a coworker who, when he found out that I can develop software, agreed to pay for my enrollment in the dev program in exchange for helping him out with some coding. So he bought an enrollment package for me, we filled out the info, and the next day, I got an e-mail from Apple saying that because my application and payment information didn't match up, I had to provide them a notarized copy or a government-issued photograph to prove I am who I claim that I am. I sent them back an e-mail saying that I didn't feel comfortable providing them my personal information, that nowhere in the terms I agreed to did it say that such documentation was required, and that if they want to send me a letter or call my phone to verify my information, I'd welcome the opportunity to do so. They have yet to reply back, so tomorrow, I'm probably going to ask for my coworker's money back and just register myself under my own company's name instead.

    So developer-to-developer, I can't help but wonder, is it worth it? Sure, there are stories around of people making a million bucks off of $0.99 apps, but the kind of stuff I have in mind is niche-oriented, and I don't plan to be a millionaire; it's more of a hobby than anything else.

    I have an iPhone and I love it, but I don't like the thought that I can't install stuff that I might want because Apple says so. I really don't like being jerked around as a developer and told what other people can and can't run of mine that I write, especially when there's no danger of causing the system to crash or anything like that.

    I can't help but wonder if Apple keeps jerking developers around like this if eventually they'll give up and move on to another platform. Apple is customer-focused, and that's great, really, it is. But at what point will they realize that they need developers on board too, just as much or more than we need Apple?

    1. Re:Is this affecting developers? by JLangbridge · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I used to be an iPhone dev too, but I've completely given in. XCode is beautiful, working on MacOS X is a dream, iPhones are incredible, but I really, really hate it when a control freak sends me back my application because an icon is a few pixels to the left than what they were expecting. The Apple iPhone Guidelines isn't a guideline, it's a Bible, and any transgression is immediately punished by sending the app back with a fat "No" written on the email. I've had apps refused for graphical problems (i.e. they didn't like my icon), for too much functionality (i.e. One application should do only one thing, and do it well) even though the extra functionality can be defended and explained as "necessary". So I quit my job, and I'm back doing embedded Linux projects. I still have an iPhone, but with the recent events concerning Google and Apple, quite honestly I've given in and I'm looking for a new phone. As for iPhone development, I've had job offers, and I've refused every single one. Apple development is history as far as I'm concerned.

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