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Chapter 11 Trustee Appointed For SCO

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "The judge overseeing the SCO Chapter 11 bankruptcy case has issued an order appointing a chapter 11 trustee to oversee SCO's operations. However, the judge's reasoning is far from clear. While the judge believes that SCO has 'abandoned rehabilitation' to bet its future on litigation, he doesn't think it appropriate to convert their case to Chapter 7 liquidation. So SCO's management hasn't been fired yet, but they're no longer fully in charge either. It's not clear why the bankruptcy judge opted for this solution, when even the US Trustee was pushing to fire SCO's management and convert the case to Chapter 7. In short, SCO is still only mostly dead, rather than all dead, and in desperate search of a miracle worker."

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  1. Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Please, whoever ends up acquiring SCO and their IP, set UnixWare and OpenServer free! Release the source code to both under a very liberal open source license. I hope Novell or whoever else has rights to the code could agree to that.

    1. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by noidentity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That would be the ultimate irony, for their code to all become open-source due to their attempts to claim they owned lots of source they didn't. It'd almost make all these years of SCO stories worth it...

    2. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by kennedy · · Score: 2, Funny

      My kingdom for a mod point. Sigh.

    3. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by johnthorensen · · Score: 2, Funny

      What, no love for XENIX? :-)

    4. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's not likely to happen unless someone with deep pockets is willing to buy the source code and re-release it under an open source license. The job of the bankruptcy trustee isn't to punish SCO -- under a Chapter 7 his job is to maximize the value of SCO's assets so the creditors get as much of their money back as possible. Under a Chapter 11 his job is to see that they return to business as a viable entity while seeking the best possible deal for the creditors -- but seeing as how SCO has no viable business plan I'd say it's only a matter of time before it becomes a Chapter 7.

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    5. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by sconeu · · Score: 4, Informative

      They can't.

      Please see Ransom Love's comment:

      Indeed, at first we wanted to open-source all of Unix's code, but we quickly found that even though we owned it, it was, and still is, full of other companies copyrights.

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    6. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by Korin43 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Would anyone use it even if it was free? I hear a lot about SCO suing people but I don't think I've ever heard someone say they were buying a SCO product..

    7. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by Svartalf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Unfortunately, I can't see WHEN it will become so. They should have been converted to a 7 filing and the Judge didn't do that much. While appointing an 11 Trustee is a step in the right direction, it's little more than a baby step really.

      I can't see WHY the Judge is erring so far on the side of caution here- there won't be any appealing a 7 conversion at this point as SCO's clearly not restructuring to be profitable again. They're still hoping for the **BIG** litigation score- which will never happen as they didn't have a case in that regard to begin with.

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    8. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They're still hoping for the **BIG** litigation score- which will never happen as they didn't have a case in that regard to begin with.

      Interestingly enough, that lawsuit could be seen as an "asset" of sorts. When you file bankruptcy you have to list any causes of action or ongoing lawsuits that you are a party to. The theory is that if the cases have merit the US Trustee can take them from you, litigate them to the logical conclusion and use the proceeds to repay your creditors.

      That the US Trustee hasn't already seized their ongoing cases is pretty telling of how much "merit" they have. Of course most of here already knew that. I am somewhat surprised that it hasn't been converted to a 7 as well. How much money do they owe? Maybe the creditors will eventually push it in that direction -- it will soon become bloody obvious to them that they aren't going to see a dime if the current crew gets to keep using Chapter 11 as a shield to wait for the big score that's never gonna come.

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    9. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by evilviper · · Score: 2, Funny

      I hear a lot about SCO suing people but I don't think I've ever heard someone say they were buying a SCO product..

      Some topics just aren't discussed in polite company.

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    10. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by gdshaw · · Score: 2, Informative

      You wouldn't need very deep pockets, and IBM could certainly afford it without blinking, but I don't think they will for the very simple reason that those particular copyrights are of little importance: at worst they can be used to threaten a few of SCO's ex-customers, but that's about all.

      Of somewhat greater importance are the core System V copyrights, but according to the Utah ruling these are owned by Novell. All that needs to happen at this point is for the Utah ruling to stand.

      (Of course, even with those copyrights it would be a huge uphill struggle to threaten Linux at this point, but better that no-one is given the opportunity to try.)

    11. Re:Free UnixWare and OpenServer! by fendragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can't see WHY the Judge is erring so far on the side of caution here- there won't be any appealing a 7 conversion at this point as SCO's clearly not restructuring to be profitable again. They're still hoping for the **BIG** litigation score- which will never happen as they didn't have a case in that regard to begin with.

      Possibly this: Either way the company will run into the ground and the judge knows that. If the judge ordered Chap. 7 Darl would spend the rest of his life telling everyone how he was cheated out of his litigation fortune and chance to save the company, and it would all be the judge's fault. By letting them carry on, the case will be lost or more likely SCO will run out of money (surely a matter of weeks now). Same result, but this way he can't complain that the court didn't let SCO give it their best shot.

  2. To Blathe! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Did you say to blathe? Well as everyone knows, to blathe means to bluff."

    SCO bluffed, and got caught. Miracle Max only works for True Love, not To Blathe

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  3. Suing people is *not* a valid business model... by johnthorensen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...unless you're a lawyer. Look at the RIAA, SCO, et al. Their 'businesses' are all suffering while the lawyers laugh all the way to the bank.

    It's a damn shame that the trial lawyer lobby is so strong.

    1. Re:Suing people is *not* a valid business model... by davester666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Evil never dies...

      Because nobody goes after the lawyers!

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    2. Re:Suing people is *not* a valid business model... by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Informative
      I have some bad news for you. Assuming that SCO don't appeal this Order and a chapter 11 Trustee is appointed, what are his options?
      1. Shut the company down and pay the last remaining cash to the creditors. Since there's not enough left in SCO's accounts (now, let alone after Darl & Co loot it) to pay the creditors, this is the option of last resort, and not what a Chapter 11 Trustee is meant to do anyway.
      2. Cut or sell off the loss making parts of the company to fund the profitable bits. But since SCO has systematically cannibalised everything except the litigation, there are no profitable bits left. As the bankruptcy judge has noted, the litigation is the only part of the company that might make money.
      3. Sell part of the company to fund the litigation. However, there's nothing of value left to sell. SCO have just been denied the opportunity to pull an incestuous "sale" of some nebulous "assets" to a sock-puppet (i.e. unXis), and I can't see an independent Trustee allowing any such shennanigans.
      4. Sell the whole company - i.e. the litigation - and make it someone else's problem.

      I think option 4 is the only realistic one. This name on this litigation is about to change, but it isn't going anywhere.

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  4. In other news... by johnthorensen · · Score: 5, Funny

    3D Realms has announced post-reorganization merger plans with SCO Group. SCO shares were up $0.02/share for a gain of 10000% on the news that they would be suing themselves for non-performance.

    1. Re:In other news... by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 2, Funny

      Verizon executives were said to be confused as to how two-thousandths of a cent could be a 10000% increase, even for SCO.

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  5. Maybe to keep 'em from sneaking stuff out the door by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Interesting

    However, the judge's reasoning is far from clear.

    Maybe this is the judge's way of putting a watchdog on 'em to make sure they don't run out the door with or (further) destroy the value of some of the remaining assets before things get settled?

    (Not only am I NAL but I'm especially NA bankruptcy L.)

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  6. Re:Miracle Worker? by rasper99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There were stories that the CEO of Enron, Ken Lay called the Whitehouse after things collapsed. His call was not taken. Just a few years before he was Uncle Kenny at the BBQs in Crawford, TX. Probably be about the same here.

  7. Re:Aw... don't feel bad SCO... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

    You've been "mostly dead" all day...

    Time to go through his pockets for loose change I think.

  8. Judges rarely convert to chapter 7 by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm not a lawyer and by no means an expert on bankruptcy but as I understand it bankruptcy judges are generally very hesitant about converting Chapter 11 to Chapter 7 bankruptcies unless pretty much everyone thinks they should. The general attitude of the American bankruptcy system is that companies should generally be given pretty close to every opportunity to get out to the wholes they've gotten into and that we shouldn't start filling the dirt in over them unless we've got really good reasons. Note also that this doesn't mean that SCO won't go through chapter 7. It just means it isn't going through chapter 7 right now. It could still convert later if things show no sign of improvement.

  9. Wikipedia is your friend. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looks like that might be it.

    According to the Wikipedia article on chapter 11, chapter 11 lets the company run either under a court-appointed trustee or the "debtor in posession", i.e. the original management acting as a trustee and operating under the same rules, behind the shield of the bankruptcy process. And:

    Appointment of a trustee requires some wrongdoing or gross mismanagement on the part of existing management and is relatively rare.

    Looks like the judge is saying that, while it isn't clear yet whether SCO will be able to emerge from chapter 11 as a viable business or will have to be liquidated under chapter 7, the current management is either grossly mismanaging the company or at least making it appear that they aren't doing as well for the interests of the creditors and stockholders as a trustee would.

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  10. My Read by DannyO152 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the first point about bankruptcy court is that the debtors are given time to reorganize and to become viable and the creditors are given an opportunity to get some of the money they are owed paid back.

    The Judge is saying the guys who were running SCO were not taking bankruptcy seriously. The Judge called them out for bleeding cash, wasting time, requesting and missing multiple extensions on the deadline for them to produce a reorganizing plan, and coming up with the half-baked sales agreements all predicated on, after the particular assets are sold, creditors paid off, and attorneys funded, if, the big vaporous if, there's litigation proceeds, then SCO's owners and managers do very well. When he referenced "Waiting for Godot" and SCO's management "waiting for the dough" and betting the company on litigation, I think he chose the Chapter 11 Trustee plan so that when the appeals in Novell are decided (it is suggested that that will be by Aug. 31) someone with a clear eye can look at that decision and decide if there's truly money for the estate in pursuit of the litigation or whether it's time to turn out the lights. In the decision he repeats SCO's assertion that customers will miss them and I think he does that not as an endorsement of SCO's position but to signal that there is a profitable going concern in the server products and somebody will be glad to be in that business, i.e., there will be a serious buyer.

    Between the lines, I think he does not like what SCO's management has done by following the litigation business model and I further think he sees that the only way for the smaller creditors to get their money back is to put less sue-happy people in charge. I'm sure the judge was not pleased with the way some bills got paid by subsidiaries and how Darl McBride paid for one suitor/rainmaker out of his own pocket. SCO was racing the clock and the clock ran out.

    1. Re:My Read by dbIII · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Another important thing to note is the "litigation business model" involves paying a lot in legal fees to Darl's brother. IMHO Darl deliberately drove the company into the brick wall that is IBM to direct a lot of SCO's money to his brother. Between the two of them they made a vast amount more from SCO than if Darl had successfully managed the company.

  11. not only zombie-like, but completely inauthentic by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Funny

    As a resident of Santa Cruz, I would expect any authentic "Santa Cruz Operation" to involve growing plants.

  12. It could be beneficial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The trustee has to investigate SCO's business. The trustee can decide that SCO's whole 'thing' is a fraud and has no chance of success. The trustee can settle all the cases out of court and on the terms that Novell and IBM dictate. That would put a quick end to the whole thing and Darl and company couldn't appeal the decision.

    If SCO's assets were sold in chapter 7, there is a chance that the litigation would go on for years.

    So, chapter 11 with a trustee might be better than chapter 7.

  13. Re:Miracle Worker? by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Funny

    There were stories that the CEO of Enron, Ken Lay called the Whitehouse after things collapsed. His call was not taken.

    "Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system. 'IS THIS THING ON? *tap, tap, tap* HEY THIS IS GEORGE LEAVE A MESSAGE!' is not available. At the tone please record your message. When you are finished recording you can hang up or press '1' for more options. To leave a callback number, press '5'."

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  14. SCO???? by icedcool · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who?

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  15. Re:Maybe to keep 'em from sneaking stuff out the d by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Informative

    SCO petitioned at the last minute for an administrator, with less power than a real trustee, to handle only selected parts of a full Chapter 11 proceeding. That's what they liked best. From Groklaw, no one seems to know if such an arrangement was even a legal option.

    A chapter 7 with appointed trustee is what they would like least. That presumes there's no chance of the company ever reorganizing, and the goal is instead to pay off as many of the creditors as possible.

    The judge gave them something in the middle - a standard chapter 11 ,which means he is holding out the chance that some purchase offer might be legitimate and SCO just might rise again.

    If I'm ever facing 20 years in maximum security, I plan to claim house arrest with an ankle bracelet is quite reasonable and customary for whatever I did, and see if the judge will split the difference and give me 5 in minimum security. Who knows, it could work.

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  16. SCO is like a bad movie monster... by jd2112 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can kill it, but as long as there is even a remote chace that money can be made it will be back in a sequel.

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  17. Re:Maybe to keep 'em from sneaking stuff out the d by Sanat · · Score: 2, Funny

    You focus on the purchase price.

    I got you covered for the extra $100

    Even if you can't purchase SCO the $100 is still yours for the punch.

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