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Ubuntu's New Firefox Is Watching You

sukotto writes "Ubuntu recently released an unannounced and experimental 'multisearch' extension to Firefox alpha 3, apparently in an effort to improve the default behavior of new tabs and of search. In a response to one of the initial bug reports the maintainers mentioned that the extension's other purposes were 'collecting the usage data' and 'generating revenue.' Since this extension installs by itself and offers no warning about potential privacy violations, quite a few people (myself included) feel pretty unhappy. The only way to opt out is to disable the extension manually via Tools > Add-ons." Most posters to this Ubuntu forum thread are not happy about multisearch.

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  1. Not new by sopssa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is not actually far away from how Firefox generates its revenue too - from ad clicks in Google search and by direct sponsoring from Google.

    The two main ways to monetarize and support OSS projects is giving support and ads. In the later case you always lose some of your privacy. Developing Linux and its distro's need money aswell. You could choose a distro that is financed in other way (maybe by you), use commercial software that doesn't do this or be fine with generating some ad income to support the development. "Perfect" package is usually impossible to obtain because of financial limitations.

    Google is build completely around this model too and it seems to work good for them - even if people lose some of their privacy. Hell, slashdot is maintained by ad revenue too. Another distro that also does same kind of stuff is Linux Mint.

    Its nothing new, but it might surprise those who believe in pure, not-revenue-generating OSS. It's how the free for user projects are financed.

    1. Re:Not new by SBrach · · Score: 5, Insightful

      WTF. Way to give Mozilla a free pass because it's OSS. You know, I use both open source and closed source software but I guess I am the only one who judges both by the same standard. What an asshole I am huh.

    2. Re:Not new by Score+Whore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lots of people like sex. Very few people like to be raped. The difference is in the consent. Same situation here.

  2. Outrage calibration by jpmorgan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, here's the outrage from when Microsoft slipped the .NET Framework Assistant into Firefox without asking. Adjust your outrage accordingly...

    1. Re:Outrage calibration by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 5, Informative

      ICEWEASEL!
      # apt-get update
      Get:1 http://your.favorite.mirror/ sid Release.gpg [378B]
      Get:2 http://your.favorite.mirror/ sid Release [79.6kB]
      Get:3 http://your.favorite.mirror/ sid/main Packages [4514kB]
      Get:4 http://your.favorite.mirror/ sid/main Sources [1280kB]
      Fetched 5874kB in 11s (523kB/s)
      Reading package lists... Done

      # apt-get install iceweasel
      Reading package lists... Done
      Building dependency tree... Done
      Suggested packages:
          iceweasel-gnome-support latex-xft-fonts xprint mozplugger
      The following NEW packages will be installed:
          iceweasel
      0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
      Need to get 8933kB of archives.
      After unpacking 27.2MB of additional disk space will be used.
      Get:1 http://your.favorite.mirror/ sid/main iceweasel 2.0+dfsg-1 [8933kB]
      Fetched 8933kB in 9s (975kB/s)
      Selecting previously deselected package iceweasel.
      (Reading database ... 68428 files and directories currently installed.)
      Unpacking iceweasel (from .../iceweasel_2.0+dfsg-1_powerpc.deb) ...
      Setting up iceweasel (2.0+dfsg-1) ...
      Please restart any running Iceweasels, or you will experience problems.

      # _

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat

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    2. Re:Outrage calibration by FlyingBishop · · Score: 5, Informative

      1) This is the default browser, and Ubuntu shipped it with modifications for years. That they would change the nature of those modifications in an update is hardly surprising.
      2) The summary says the only way to disable it is by using the add-ons dialog, as if that were some onerous distinction. .NET was unremovable through the add-ons dialog, which was the primary reason people were pissed. Ubuntu's really done nothing to break the user trust here. You don't like it, remove it, it will take all of 10 seconds, and be completely gone.

      Also, it's clear this won't make it into the release candidate. That is the value of an open source OS with a public bug tracker, in which the most minor problems (and the most vitriolic responses) are archived and freely available on the internet.

    3. Re:Outrage calibration by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Both are annoying but one is a lesser evil

      The lesser of two evils is still evil.

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    4. Re:Outrage calibration by gparent · · Score: 5, Informative

      The .NET one has been updated to uninstall fine.

    5. Re:Outrage calibration by calc · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Ubuntu needs all the good press they can get, I don't understand why they would risk it."

      That's pretty funny considering Ubuntu is still in the lead on DistroWatch on all timespans except the last week. For the last week an Ubuntu derivative Linux Mint is number 1 with Ubuntu at number 2.

    6. Re:Outrage calibration by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not data mining. If anyone actually read TFA, the extension just makes the default "new tab" page the standard Ubuntu-themed google search. And, like always, if you use their search service they will log your search. It's the same as before, except instead of only seeing the ubuntu search on your home page, you see it on every new tab.

    7. Re:Outrage calibration by gunnk · · Score: 5, Informative

      The information over at Ubuntu says it's only in Koala during the development phase for testing parts of the Ubuntu custom search UI.

      There does not seem to be any intention of deploying data mining extensions in any release. It would be nice if there was a little more warning in the dev version, but this doesn't seem malicious. Just a tool to help the developers optimize the custom search UI -- which in turn would generate additional revenue for Ubuntu because more people will choose to use it if it is very well done.

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  3. And that's not all... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hear the Ubuntu extension also has a feature for euthanasia of old people.

    1. Re:And that's not all... by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey! Thats one feature that would make it easier for all tech support people! Can it be remotely activated?

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  4. Do not panic by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been following this for some time. The multisearch add-on was only intended for the pre-release versions, as part of a research project. It will NOT be included in the final Karmic release.
    That is what alpha releases are for, after all: testing. Admittedly, the devs could have bothered to mention that they were planning this, but it's better that they did it here than in the final release.

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  5. Vanilla Firefox Build by melikamp · · Score: 5, Informative

    0. Once prerequisites are installed on Ubuntu,

    1. Download the source:

    ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5.2/source/firefox-3.5.2-source.tar.bz2

    2. Unpack source:

    tar xvfj firefox-3.5.2-source.tar.bz2

    3. Create .mozconfig in the top-level directory:

    . $topsrcdir/browser/config/mozconfig
    mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/objdir-ff-release
    mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-j4"
    ac_add_options --enable-optimize
    export CFLAGS="-gstabs+"
    export CXXFLAGS="-gstabs+"

    4. make -f client.mk

    5. Enjoy objdir-ff-release/dist/bin/firefox

  6. Re:Free as in speech by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All true statements, but pointless because you left out at least one freedom: people are also free to complain until Ubuntu does something about it to save their brand.

  7. Re:some people... by Andr+T. · · Score: 5, Informative

    Collecting user data without asking for agreement is wrong, whatever you say.

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  8. it has been added in a alpha cycle by dominux · · Score: 5, Informative

    it was introduced in Karmic which is an alpha distribution. It wasn't introduced without announcement to the main production users of Jaunty. It may have been introduced without announcement to the Karmic alpha, because introducing it to the alpha *is* the announcement. It was done to see if it was better, results from alpha testing may reveal it is not better, or may reveal it is better. The results of the experiment will help decide whether it should stay, or go.

  9. Re:Free as in speech by Abreu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Canonical is Free to distribute a computer program that watches how people use it as long as people who use the program know what's going on. But because Firefox/Iceweasel/whatever is free software, you are also Free to download the source code, rip out the data mining, and rebuild it, or to hire someone to do so for you.

    Emphasis mine.

    The problem here is that Canonical did not ask for permission.

    For the record, I would be perfectly willing to use a reasonably private datamining program to support Ubuntu, as long as everyone is clearly informed on what it can do and what it can't.

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