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New Company Seeks to Bring Semantic Context To Numbers

A new company, True#, is seeking to bring extensive semantic context to numbers to give them obvious meanings just as certain words have obvious meanings to most readers. "Most of us can probably recognize 3.14159 and the conceptual baggage it carries, but how many of us would recognize 58.44? (That's a mole of sodium chloride, in grams, for the curious.) And the response that would work for words — look it up — doesn't work so conveniently for numbers. Only one of the top-10 hits in Google refers to salt, and Bing fails entirely (though it does offer 'Women's Sexy Mini Skirts by VENUS'). Clearly, we haven't figured out how to make the Web work for numbers in the same way it does for words."

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  1. Web searches aren't THAT bad... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Funny

    1337 returns EXACTLY what I expected.

    1. Re:Web searches aren't THAT bad... by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      > I did know about 69 ... but 42 ... It's kind of kinky.

      You don't like thigh on shin action?

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    2. Re:Web searches aren't THAT bad... by ittybad · · Score: 4, Funny
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  2. Works for me by winkydink · · Score: 2, Funny

    I get one return for NaCl on Bing and nothing about miniskirts.

    Cue the conspiracy theorists.

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    1. Re:Works for me by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe Bing learns from previous searches.

      ...by google!

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  3. When I search for infinity... by Anonymusing · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...it returns "number of years it will take before True# turns a profit."

    I'm seriously confused how many companies will jump at this -- and why someone like Google won't just do it for free? Couldn't you use Google Base for something like this?

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  4. Wrong conclusion by godrik · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only one of the top-10 hits in Google refers to salt, and Bing fails entirely (though it does offer "Women's Sexy Mini Skirts by VENUS").

    Bing seems far superior to my hormon^W^Wme.

  5. Hitchhiker's Guide? by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, put in the (numerical) answer and it gives you the question?

    Thank God Douglass Adams didn't know about this.

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  6. 42 by edalytical · · Score: 2, Funny

    Need I say more?

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  7. Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    How often do you have a number without units? Putting in "58.44g" returns NaCl, sodium chloride, or molecular weight in every one of the first page results.

  8. 420 comes up correctly! :) by Ron+Bennett · · Score: 3, Funny

    For the number 420, Wikipedia's Cannabis information page comes up #1 in both google and bing.

  9. 35484.32384 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    3494.13
    332
    8494.354
    2324.234

    Hahaha, I kill me sometimes.

    Get it? 332 ... 3494.13 -> 8494.354 ?

    Man, that is too funny!

  10. Note to self: patent the following numbers... by greenguy · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Eleventeen
    2. 867-5309
    3. 451
    4. 1999
    5. a gazillion
    6. THIS MANY (holding up three fingers)
    7. infinity minus one
    8. approximately
    9. 9/11 (may already be taken)
    10. Top ten

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    1. Re:Note to self: patent the following numbers... by autocracy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, I own 0.8181818181 already. You can't have it.

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  11. Thank goodness my numbers are safe by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I searched "1234" on google and bing, the top results are about that Feist song. Thank goodness it doesn't mention anything about it being my root admin password and my luggage combination--hey! Where did my bag go? It was just here, and why is there a sudden spike in my internet tra#%^W&*s%!$AF{:

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  12. Where? by davidwr · · Score: 3, Funny

    The weight of a mole of sodium varies by location. In most of the universe the weight of anything is almost zero.

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  13. He's right, you know by imadork · · Score: 2, Funny

    I typed "12345" into Google, and Google did not know that was the combination to my luggage.

  14. Re:okey dokey by Pollardito · · Score: 2, Funny

    a sodium chloride solution specifically

  15. Re:This is really stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why in the hell would I want to search for a number with no context? Who thinks that way?

    TV Detectives investigating the death of a Chemistry Prof. would find this tool invaluable...

  16. Re:INCORRECT USAGE by pjt33 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure you've heard the one about the linguist who was walking across campus with his girlfriend when they saw six descriptivists beating up a prescriptivist. She turned to him in horror and asked, "Aren't you going to help?"

    "No," he replied, "I think six is enough."

  17. Re:Reverse Engineering and Better Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I have had this need when reverse engineering and debugging algorithms in software. There are magic numbers in the formulas and I have no idea what they mean.

    Oh, yes. My .vimrc contains the constant 2551443 -- ask Google for it. Then, ask Google for "2551443 seconds".

  18. Google had my number by Skapare · · Score: 2, Funny

    2635622779696759818963956926355997625653382829357706805515232 / 838944787028681613144502774660896402692975681322322888764935

    I have lots of better ones. But they'd probably break Slashdot to post them.

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  19. Re:Sig Figs by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wolphram Alpha calls it 58.4

    so much for significant figures.

    You only get significant figures from significant search engines.

  20. Re:Reverse Engineering and Better Search by NonSequor · · Score: 2, Funny

    I have had this need when reverse engineering and debugging algorithms in software. There are magic numbers in the formulas and I have no idea what they mean.

    Additionally, if something like this was rolled into a more generalized search algorithm, it could be used the other way around. Google could know, for example, that a paper with the number 58.44 a lot of times is probably about NaCl even if it is not mentioned explicitly.

    Sorry, you're out of luck there. Magic numbers work because they're actually magical. Sorry to burst your bubble if you still believe in things like algorithms and the tooth fairy.

    Did you honestly believe that computers worked by interpreting a series of logical instructions input by a mortal human being? Trust me. When you're ready to understand you won't need to search.

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