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New Company Seeks to Bring Semantic Context To Numbers

A new company, True#, is seeking to bring extensive semantic context to numbers to give them obvious meanings just as certain words have obvious meanings to most readers. "Most of us can probably recognize 3.14159 and the conceptual baggage it carries, but how many of us would recognize 58.44? (That's a mole of sodium chloride, in grams, for the curious.) And the response that would work for words — look it up — doesn't work so conveniently for numbers. Only one of the top-10 hits in Google refers to salt, and Bing fails entirely (though it does offer 'Women's Sexy Mini Skirts by VENUS'). Clearly, we haven't figured out how to make the Web work for numbers in the same way it does for words."

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  1. Web searches aren't THAT bad... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 5, Funny

    1337 returns EXACTLY what I expected.

    1. Re:Web searches aren't THAT bad... by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      > I did know about 69 ... but 42 ... It's kind of kinky.

      You don't like thigh on shin action?

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    2. Re:Web searches aren't THAT bad... by haifastudent · · Score: 5, Informative

      And when web searches fail to find what you need, Wikipedia often has you covered:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search/58.44

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  2. Wrong conclusion by godrik · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only one of the top-10 hits in Google refers to salt, and Bing fails entirely (though it does offer "Women's Sexy Mini Skirts by VENUS").

    Bing seems far superior to my hormon^W^Wme.

  3. Sig Figs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the accepted weight is 58.443 thats why Bing didn't show any NaCl results.

  4. First you need a semantic context by davidwr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Search58.44 and chemistry and you'll find what you are looking for a lot faster.

    This will be much more useful if it allows for approximate numbers and widely-used but inaccurate numbers. "1.4 math" should return 7/5, sqrt(2), and a bunch of other things. "3.142857 and math" should return "22/7" and "approximate value of pi" and probably a lot more.

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  5. Seems to work just fine by gt6062b · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'll bite.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mole+of+sodium+chloride+in+grams - seems to work just fine searching for "mole of sodium chloride in grams" and also works without the "in grams".

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=mole+of+sodium+chloride+in+grams - works for Bing too.

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=sodium+chloride+molecular+weight - also works.

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=58.44+science - "58.44 science" 6th one down. Better results from google.

    Why would anyone just type in a number and expect it to know that you want the molecular weight of NaCl? If you add a little bit of context to your search, it magically works.

  6. Hitchhiker's Guide? by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, put in the (numerical) answer and it gives you the question?

    Thank God Douglass Adams didn't know about this.

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  7. Re:why by winkydink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shhhh... Since when has making sense had anything to do with raising money from VC's? Especially when you can use the word crowdsourcing in your pitch.

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  8. Thank goodness my numbers are safe by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I searched "1234" on google and bing, the top results are about that Feist song. Thank goodness it doesn't mention anything about it being my root admin password and my luggage combination--hey! Where did my bag go? It was just here, and why is there a sudden spike in my internet tra#%^W&*s%!$AF{:

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  9. Reverse Engineering and Better Search by schnablebg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have had this need when reverse engineering and debugging algorithms in software. There are magic numbers in the formulas and I have no idea what they mean.

    Additionally, if something like this was rolled into a more generalized search algorithm, it could be used the other way around. Google could know, for example, that a paper with the number 58.44 a lot of times is probably about NaCl even if it is not mentioned explicitly.

  10. Re:Works for me by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe Bing learns from previous searches.

    ...by google!

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  11. Re:INCORRECT USAGE by pjt33 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure you've heard the one about the linguist who was walking across campus with his girlfriend when they saw six descriptivists beating up a prescriptivist. She turned to him in horror and asked, "Aren't you going to help?"

    "No," he replied, "I think six is enough."