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Sensor To Monitor TV Watchers Demoed At Cable Labs

An anonymous reader writes "Cable operators at the semi-annual CableLab's Innovation Showcase have informally voted as best new product a gizmo that can determine how many people are watching a TV. Developed by Israeli company PrimeSense, the product lets digital devices see a 3-D view of the world (the images look like something from thermal imaging). In other words, that cable set-top box will know whether three people are sitting on the sofa watching TV and how many are adults vs. children. Do we really need cable and/or video service operators knowing this? It all happens via a chip that resides in a camera that plugs into the set-top box."

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  1. I bet it doesn't work! by Tired+and+Emotional · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I bet it can't tell the difference between someone watching the TV and someone sleeping in front of the TV.

    I bet it can't tell the difference between me, sitting at the kitchen table watching the Football and my wife sitting at the breakfast table with her back turned.

    I bet it can't tell that I am reading, not watching.

    How does it distinguish a large dog from a small child?

    If it uses infra red it can at least distinguish a human from a cardboard cut-out of the Duke of Edinburgh! I have seen award ceremonies have trouble with that one, so I guess that makes it smarter than some humans.

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  2. Nielson boxes? by Gudeldar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps these are going to go in next generation Nielsen boxes so that Nielsen can give a more accurate count of viewers instead of just assuming 1 box = 1 viewer.

    1. Re:Nielson boxes? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What, are you kidding! That's way too sensible! As the other posters have surmised its an evil plot such that the cable operator can watch everything you do from their Skull Island fortress of doom!!!!!

      No, the other posters have surmised that if something can be abused by those in a position of power, it will be so abused, sooner or later.

      Whether it is first used for a "sensible" purpose or no, sooner or later it will be used for a malicious purpose.

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  3. Re:Phone home by PolyDwarf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What would be the point if it *didn't* send the info to anyone?

  4. Re:Limits? by clang_jangle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any limits set initially may well change. This is just another reason to resort to bittorrent.

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  5. Re:duct tape by RetroGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And then the box detects its 'blind' and refuses to run your movie

    At which point I return the box/tv set, yell at the salesperson, and behave badly.

    This is like the Panasonic patent which blocks channel changing during commercials. Some *AA exec is wetting his pants, but the public WILL NOT put up with this.

    This kind of intrusion is a revolution just waiting to happen, sheeple or not.

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  6. Re:Phone home by xigxag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The manufacturer's homepage seems to imply that the device could be used for gesture-controlled applications, such as changing the channel without a remote control.

    In other words, something like Natal.

    Or to rephrase that, what does this device do that Natal doesn't have the capability to do? And that being the case, shouldn't people be equally worried about Natal spying on its users?

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  7. The Fix by DynaSoar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "It all happens via a chip that resides in a camera that plugs into the set-top box."

    It all stops happening via a Craftsman five pound ball peen camera removal tool that resides in a box that sits on top the work bench.

    This reeks of leftover dot com fever outrageous idea development looking for thrown-cash funding regardless of viability. Though crippled beyond recuperation that mind set refuses to die along with some of its other goofy projects, such as the Nukem Dukem 3D of extraneous peripherals, the eternally vaporous Smell-O-Vision-like "products". If it weren't for the fact that the marketoids attending the conference are undoubtedly drooling over their imagined implications for advertising revenue, it would have all the impact and lifespan of all the items taken from patents and idea articles and sputtered across the What's New pages of Popular Science.

    But then I could be wrong. Cable operators could "require" these and tie the incoming signal to its continued operation. In which case it would behoove the prudent to invest heavily into manufacturers of big rubber asses with clamps designed to attach to the front of cable set-top boxes.

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  8. Nietzsche by Experiment+626 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Friedrich Nietzsche once said that if you stare into the abyss long enough the abyss stares back at you. Now staring at the TV can have the same effect.

  9. Re:Limits? by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suspect that would get defeated with the whole "I'll just watch it on netflix/DVD/bittorrent/whatever alternative there will be at the time." Maybe not for privacy's sake, but for "I'm not paying extra for when Jimmy comes over, fuck that."

    I suspect the actual uses of the device would be for advertisers to get some feedback and makeup of their viewing audience. The blurb linked to suggests it can tell between kids and adults. That doesn't sound like a tech to limit the number of viewers, that sounds like a tech to see "okay, how many kids versus how many adults are watching right now? More kids? Awesome, McDonalds pays more to run happy meal ads than value meal ads."

  10. Touch your toes (or just bend over...) by Bodhammer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'
    A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and -- one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency -- bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.
    'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years.
    -George Orwell 1984

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  11. Re:Oblig: by ksatyr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Comcast quite possibly will be watching you, but more likely for ratings gathering than for ensuring an audience of no more than x or at least y. I expect this box will be part of a voluntary program for monitoring household TV viewing habits. This would be similar to the existing Neilson electronic ratings system, only automatic, i.e. instead of requiring you to log into the system whenever you start watching TV and log out when you leave, it just detects how many are present.