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Can Unmanned Aircraft Mix With Commercial Planes?

Posted by samzenpus on from the fly-the-robotic-skies dept.

coondoggie writes "The Federal Aviation Administration this week signed a research and development agreement with GE Aviation to come up with a way to safely mix the burgeoning amounts of unmanned aircraft with commercial aviation. With this research the FAA and GE hope to accomplish an aviation first by completing the research to facilitate flight of an Unmanned Aircraft System with an FAA certified, trajectory-based flight management system. Integrating unmanned aircraft into the national airspace will be no easy task. The Government Accountability Office last year laid out the difficulties stating that routine unmanned aircraft access to national airspace poses technological, regulatory, workload, and coordination challenges."

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  1. No. by RobVB · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I like the comforting feeling of knowing there's a pilot in the cockpit.

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    1. Re:No. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I like the comforting feeling of knowing there's a pilot in the cockpit.

      I like the comforting feeling of knowing there's a pilot in the cockpit of the planes flying OVER me when I'm down here on the ground.

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    2. Re:No. by qwijibo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Do aircraft have fully autonomous co-computers that can recognize an unexpected fault and take full control of the plane? That's why commercial aircraft have co-pilots. A secondary system running the same code with the same flaws as the first doesn't cut it in this context.

    3. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wrong. You're simply scared of change. In 50 years time you WILL hear many people saying "Holy shit, they let PEOPLE fly these planes? I feel much safer without a human pilot."

    4. Re:No. by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Computers don't get heart attacks or fall asleep at the stick.

      Or figure out how to make a successful landing in a river when the engines fill up with birds...

      rj

    5. Re:No. by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      TFA: "Because unmanned aircraft have never routinely operated in the national airspace system, the level of public acceptance is unknown. One researcher observed that as unmanned aircraft expand into the non-defense sector, there will inevitably be public debate over the need for and motives behind such proliferation."

      I'm wondering why there's a need for drones to interfly commercial airspace here in the US, especially when that blog also had an article about the Air Force wanting to give drones enough machine intelligence to decide for itself whether deadly force is warranted. What could possibly go wrong with that? Are the new drones gonna be used in the much-publicised 'War' On Drugs or something?

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  2. Where's the issue? by Ryukotsusei · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see the problem in this. As long as you give the aircraft a simple AI (planes practically fly themselves anyway), and a pre-set route, they should be fairly predictable. A simple in-the-air navigation system for collision avoidance and you're set.

  3. Pilots Union/Lobby? by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some how I think the technological aspects will be the least burdensome to implement...

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  4. Auto Pilot by Drakin020 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Heck with the way things are now, the Auto Pilot can nearly land a plane by itself.

    The idea isn't too far off, but to an extent, we already have an "Auto flying" system currently in use.

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  5. ATC... by Omega+Hacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd love to have them get a proper air-traffic control system in place that can safely handle the load of piloted planes we have, first. Only after that would it be prudent to look at bringing UAVs into the mix.

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  6. Re:Not sure what the BFD is by MartinSchou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The ATC there [Baghdad] does this every day. Why is flying one UAV in the US that big a deal?

    Because if something goes wrong in the USA, the airplanes in question will be landing on US citizens and not Iraqi ones.

  7. This isn't about safety, it's about freedom. by professorguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We can argue all day whether the planes are SAFE. I'm sure they can be made safe enough eventually.

    But the important point here is: THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO DEPLOY MILITARY EQUIPMENT AGAINST U.S. CITIZENS ON DOMESTIC SOIL.

    The details of the technology are secondary to this violation of Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. And, again, we can argue about how much of the act is still available to citizens, but the real point is LET'S NOT GIVE UP ANY MORE!