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Open Textbooks Win Over Publishers In CA

Unequivocal writes "Recently California's Governor announced a free digital textbook competition. The results of that competition were announced today. Many traditional publishers submitted textbooks in this digital textbook competition in CA as well as open publishers. An upstart nonprofit organization named CK-12 contributed a number of textbooks (all free and open source material). 'Of the 16 free digital textbooks for high school math and science reviewed, ten meet at least 90 percent of California's standards. Four meet 100 percent of standards.' Three of those recognized as 100% aligned to California standards were from CK-12 and one from H. Jerome Keisler. None of the publisher's submissions were so recognized. CK-12 has a very small staff, so this is a great proof of the power of open textbooks and open educational resources."

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  1. Common Sense by dintech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thankfully common sense has prevailed. This is one monopoly that the world should be glad to see the back of.

    1. Re:Common Sense by TaggartAleslayer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No kidding. What's the difference between the 10th edition you could use last year and the 11th edition you have to use this year? About $100 and a few rearranged chapters.

    2. Re:Common Sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Occasionally there are legitimate updates to a book. My teacher friend and his co-workers turned down a textbook that had the wrong city labelled as our state capital. Not sure if they ever fixed it, but it's something that peer review could help.

    3. Re:Common Sense by scorp1us · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You say that now, but wait for the Open Intelligent Design course materials come out.

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    4. Re:Common Sense by Atzanteol · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Individual experiments pointing to issues with well-supported theories are *not* theories in and of themselves nor are they support for any other theory.

      Intelligent Design has *zero* positive evidence.

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  2. Let's hope this goes well... by TaggartAleslayer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After having just spent a little over $600 on text books, I am quite interested to see how this plays out.

    1. Re:Let's hope this goes well... by Killer+Orca · · Score: 2, Insightful

      According to TFA this study was done for high school textbooks only, perhaps they will go on to supply books to other grade levels but penetrating the cash cow that is university publishing is no easy task.

  3. Re:Computers to read the textbooks by TaggartAleslayer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I bought my netbook this year for less than the cost of two textbooks. I would go so far as to say the college book store could still make a decent living by offering rental and sale netbooks pre-loaded with proper course materials for much, much cheaper than what students pay on books right now.

  4. Re:Computers to read the textbooks by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Open Source" needn't mean(though it certainly can) "read on a computer". Obviously, digital distribution is convenient because copying is essentially free; but for locations where digital use is inconvenient or impossible, it isn't rocket surgery to send a digital document to the printer's and have copies made.

    Since, with an OSS document(or one that you own the rights to) you can have anybody you want print it, you can put out the printing for competitive bid, and should be able to get it done for not too much above cost(and printing is actually pretty cheap, compared to textbook costs).

    The issue of open vs. proprietary, for textbooks, is pretty much orthogonal to the issue of digital vs. printed.

  5. I'm fine with open-source textbooks... by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But I hope we don't resort to wiki textbooks which anyone can edit.

  6. Re:Computers to read the textbooks by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Open source" takes on a figurative meaning when it comes to things that aren't software(though given the difference between print-ready formats and the input files that created them a source vs. binary style distinction can be said to exist with texts as well); but it is still a well formed concept in that context.

    "Public domain" means not under copyright. "Open source" typically implies "Under copyright; but available subject either to essentially no terms, or subject to the requirement that you extend the rights given to you to any people you give the work to". Those are sometimes equivalent in effect (public domain vs. new BSD doesn't make a big difference in many contexts); but that doesn't make them equivalent in general.

  7. Re:Instructor Materials and Supplements? by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fundamental computer concepts don't change that often. That's why they are fundamental. Search algorithms haven't changed in 30 years. The languages we write them in has, but most of the stuff in computer science could be taught in pseudo-code, and the assignments could be done in any language. I would have preferred buying a bunch of cheaper open source books plus 5 or 6 programming-language-of-the-day books as a opposed to buying 30 books which weren't open source and didn't really cover anything that has changed in the past 10 years.

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  8. Re:Instructor Materials and Supplements? by paulsnx2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "But, even in something like a math course, open textbooks run into the "staleness" issue. That is, students do the assignments or tests and then the solutions are passed on to the next year's students. Publishers do quite a bit of work to change problems. Do not underestimate the amount of work and editing/QA involved in such an effort."

    This is now an absurd claim, at this point. WolframAlpha returns you the answer to any problem by just typing it in.

    Take for example one I just made up as I was typing this:

    Limit as x -> 0 of (sqrt(sin (x-5)) + tan((y- pi/2)^2)) / x(y-2)^2

    And bingo, it gives the answer, as well as gives the series expansion:

    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Limit+as+x+-%3E+0+of+(sqrt(sin+(x-5))+%2B+tan((y-+pi%2F2)^2))+%2F+x(y-2)^2

    Besides, an Open Textbook can be modified, updated, support the development of new resources, homework sets, etc. by the teachers themselves. So they can leverage the MASSIVE amount of prep work they all do anyway. But with a closed book system, these teachers all have to reinvent the wheel for themselves, as they cannot share their efforts based on a copyrighted book.

  9. Wikibooks by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But I hope we don't resort to wiki textbooks which anyone can edit.

    What do you have against Wikibooks, especially if you use the revision as of a given date that the instructor has approved?

  10. 'cause math should be low-res pixel graphics... by WillAdams · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and not line up on the baseline --- look at the CK-12 Calculus textbook (http://cafreetextbooks.ck12.org/math/CK12_Calculus.pdf) --- and of course Arial is the perfect choice for running text and it's perfect appropriate to use Computer Modern for equations in text, but Times and Symbol to label graphs....

    Would someone please teach these people about typography?

    William

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