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Domain Tasting "Officially Dead" Thanks To Cancellation Policy

Ars Technica is reporting that domain tasting has been all but eradicated now that the full penalty for excessive cancellations has taken effect. "In 2008, ICANN decided to act. It allowed domain registrars to withdraw as many as 10 percent of their total registrations; they would face penalties for anything above that. Initially, ICANN adopted a budget that included a charge of $0.20 for each withdrawal above the limit, which was in effect from June 2008 to July of this year. Later, it adopted an official policy that raised the penalty to $6.75, the cost of a .org registration; that took effect in July 2009. The results have been dramatic. Even under the low-cost budget provisions, domain withdrawals during the grace period dropped to 16 percent of what they had been prior to its adoption. Once the heavy penalties took hold, the withdrawal rate dropped to under half a percent."

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  1. The Many (Miss) Uses of Domain Tasting by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the semi-legitimate use you can dig up is that companies want to buy up bundles of DNs and drop ads there to see if type-in traffic or google searches can make them enough bank to warrant keeping it up. Personally, sounds like a get rich quick scheme providing nothing -- maybe even negative confusion -- to society and should therefore be discouraged.

    Next you got domain kiting. Where a jerk "tastes" under one registrar and then cancels five days later and "tastes" under another an then cancels five days later and then "tastes" under yet another registrar ... do we see where this is going? Again, free DN registration, stupid that this should even have a term even stupider that it works for people with a lot of patience aiming to save $12/year.

    And what's left? Domain Name Front Running like our friend Network Solutions? Remind me again what sound logic caused domain name tasting to be introduced in the first place?

    Lastly, after reading the short report, I'm lead to believe that we're still allowing 10% AGP deletes. My question is simple: Given the above reasons for domain tasting, why allow it at all? I mean everyone's spinning this move in a positive light except for scam artists and con men. So why not just seal the deal and make it "Officially Officially Dead" in a policy?

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    1. Re:The Many (Miss) Uses of Domain Tasting by Ex-Linux-Fanboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the thinking is that it allows people to get refunds if they made a typo during the domain registration process.

    2. Re:The Many (Miss) Uses of Domain Tasting by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's easy - you can have a refund on any domain as long as you request it within n days and you don't set up valid DNS records for that domain during that period. If you set up working DNS entries then you're using the domain so you should be charged for it.

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    3. Re:The Many (Miss) Uses of Domain Tasting by xaxa · · Score: 5, Informative

      Say Google [...] pagerank=0 OTHER, real websites that had the same ad providers these scammers use.

      You seem to be assuming Google "do no evil"; I'm afraid you're a few years out of date:

      http://www.google.com/domainpark/

  2. Oh how true ... by neonprimetime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the unfortunate aspects of networked computing is that the cost of antisocial behaviors is so small

    1. Re:Oh how true ... by NotWithABang · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've been working on this protocol for a long time and, just to update you, we have it working via UDP but discovered it to be essentialy useless since, as we all know, UDP is connectionless and a punch to the face is a complete waste when no connection is made.

      The difficulties in implementing the protocol over TCP seem to be in the fact that the receiver of the "Punch-To-The-Face" packets (PTTFs) must first ACKnowledge the connection attempt before it will be received and, in most cases, they simply refuse the connection.

      We're currently researching spoofing methods that may disguise the PTTFs until after the connection is made. However, current attempts to make a Punch To The Face look like a Hug From A Friend or Sex With A Girl have been unsuccessful.

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    2. Re:Oh how true ... by Clover_Kicker · · Score: 4, Funny

      One of the unfortunate aspects of networked computing is that the cost of antisocial behaviors is so small

      I disagree, you JACKASS!

  3. So you're saying it's mostly dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. I say we take off and nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

  4. Sudden? Not quite. by sootman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We need a new tag: "eventualoutbreakofcommonsense"

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  5. It's 'tasting,' not 'testing' by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    What was the purpose of "domain testing" anyway??

    Obviously, some domains have gone bad, like milk left out too long. You don't want to drink the whole thing, so, um, you taste a little bit of it? To see if it's gone sour? Maybe we could replace it with domain smelling, or domain giving it to your wife to see if she spits it out?

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    1. Re:It's 'tasting,' not 'testing' by twidarkling · · Score: 4, Funny

      domain giving it to your wife to see if she spits it out?

      Last time I tried that in the bedroom she threatened to kill me.

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  6. Re:What was the point anyway?? by linhares · · Score: 5, Informative

    What was the purpose of "domain testing" anyway??

    Money, young grasshopper. Money. From TFA:

    Never ones to let a good deed go unpunished, scammers quickly learned to take advantage of a user-friendly policy that allowed a misregistered domain name--perhaps due to a typo--to be withdrawn at no cost. Scammers used this "Add Grace Period" to grab huge numbers of domains, throw up pages full of advertising, then withdraw the applications before the bill came due. It was a practice known as "domain tasting," and it gave the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) a bad case of indigestion.

  7. Next, get registrars out of domain speculation by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The next step is to enforce ICANN rule 4.2.5 to prohibit registrars from warehousing or speculating in domains.

  8. Re:Heavy Penalties by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's not like scammers work with a single domain. $6.75 * 1,000 or 10,000 is certainly going to discourage some people from being a douchebag. These are people who make tiny amounts of money from a ton of places, $6.75 is enough to destroy each small revenue stream for them.

    It's sort of like when you take a penny from the tray at 7-11, except it's a much larger tray, and they take several million times.

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