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SSN Overlap With Micronesia Causes Trouble For Woman

stevel writes "Holly Ramer, who lives in Concord, NH, has never been to the Federated States of Micronesia, but debt collectors dun her mercilessly for unpaid loans taken out by a small business owner in that Pacific island nation. Why? Micronesia and other countries in the region have their own Social Security Administrations which gave out numbers to residents applying for US disaster relief loans. The catch is that the Micronesian SSNs have fewer digits than the nine-digit US version, and when credit bureaus entered these into their database, they padded them out with zeros on the front. These numbers then matched innocent US citizens with SSNs beginning with zeroes, as many in northern New England do. The credit bureaus say to call the Social Security Administration, the SSA says call the credit bureaus, the FTC says they can't help, and nobody is taking responsibility for the confusion."

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  1. Re:what i would say by HangingChad · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...and eventually physically show up at your door, what then?

    I'd live for that day.

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  2. Re:what i would say by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Informative

    And when they keep calling you at your job, and insist on speaking to your boss, and call your family, and eventually physically show up at your door, what then?

    Then you send them a cease and desist order as provided for by the FDCPA (fair debt collection practices act). If they are stupid enough to continue collection efforts after receiving it then you file suit against them in Federal court and collect $1,000 for each violation. They'll soon stop calling you when they realize that each phone call is going to cost them a thousand bucks.

    What debt collector shows up at your door anyways? I've never heard of that. If they had the balls to try that with me I'd ask them once nicely to get off my property and if they declined I would "encourage" them to leave with more forceful measures.

    Remember that a debt collector has no power or authority over you. Their main weapon is intimidation. They are counting on scaring you into paying them money and will use all manner of threats and lies to achieve this end. Other than that their only possible remedy is to sue you. This is an empty threat for the most part though because they almost always lack the documentation that would be required to win a lawsuit. They bank on collecting default judgments when the defendants fail to appear and aren't prepared to deal with someone shows up and contests the matter.

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  3. Re:what i would say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    File suit? Oh yeah, that'll cost you less than $1k... : /

    A 1k judgement falls under small claims court. That doesn't require a lawyer and it's cheap as hell in terms of fees.

  4. Re:wow by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, if it were possible to get legislation that puts credit bureaus acting within the U.S. under the domain of the FTC

    Yeah, if only there was legislation in place that did that. Imagine how lucky we'd be if Congress had passed it way back in 1970......

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    I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
    We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.