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South Korea's First Rocket Fails To Reach Set Orbit

Matt_dk writes "The first satellite launched by South Korea failed to reach its designated orbit pattern on Tuesday, the NY Times is reporting. The two-staged KSLV-1 rocket, built in cooperation with Russia, failed to deliver the 100-kilogram oceanic and atmospheric research satellite into its target orbit. The rocket was launched from the Naro Space Center, 300 miles south of the capital Seoul. 'The failure to push the satellite into its intended orbit was announced by Ahn Myong-man, the minister of education, science and technology, at a news conference. Mr. Ahn gave no further details. But South Korean news outlets, citing unidentified sources, said the satellite broke away from the rocket about 22 miles farther from the Earth than had been intended.'"

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  1. Oh! Oh! by Aphoxema · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In Soviet Russia... ahh... I don't have anything. I best leave it to the professionals.

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    1. Re:Oh! Oh! by mooingyak · · Score: 4, Funny

      In Soviet Russia... ahh... I don't have anything. I best leave it to the professionals.
      ... the professionals leave it to you?

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    2. Re:Oh! Oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      In Soviet Russia... ahh... I don't have anything. I best leave it to the professionals.

      In Korea, Soviet Russia jokes are only for old people.

    3. Re:Oh! Oh! by forkazoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      In Soviet Russia... ahh... I don't have anything. I best leave it to the professionals.

      In South Korea, people launch rockets into space.
      In Russia, rockets launch people into space.

      But, I'm sure South Korea will eventually also develop man-rated space equipment. It'll just take time while they refine the launching capacity.

  2. N.K by DirtyCanuck · · Score: 5, Interesting

    âoeNorth Korea will surely try to use the South Korean launch to justify its own,â said Jeung Young-tae, an analyst at the government-financed Korea Institute for National Unification. âoeBut in the end, its attempt will be dismissed as propaganda because there are clear differences between the two.â

    Dismissed by who? The rest of world who already knows everything he says is loaded bull.

    Or the "citizens" of North Korea who are brainwashed into believing (or supporting) every word he says.

    The people of North Korea are so isolated he could say the Japanese were sending over Godzilla to justify an attack, and the outcome would be the same with regards to domestic support.

    1. Re:N.K by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or the "citizens" of North Korea who are brainwashed into believing (or supporting) every word he says.

      Give the citizens of North Korea some credit, it isn't really being brainwashed if there's a very real chance of you being sentenced to a few decades hard labor for saying the slightest negative thing about the government.

    2. Re:N.K by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ah, the perfect solution to a difficult problem, just kill everyone you don't agree with (or in this case don't want to help). Just think, we could get rid of all the 'bad' people in the world; blacks, gays, Mexicans, redheads, poor people. The possibilities are endless!

    3. Re:N.K by ibsteve2u · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Give the citizens of North Korea some credit, it isn't really being brainwashed if there's a very real chance of you being sentenced to a few decades hard labor...

      Or your family's food ration paperwork starts going missing a day here and there...far less expensive than maintaining prison camps.

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  3. However by geekoid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    it went far enough to remind N.Korea that S.Korea has rockets.

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    1. Re:However by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually I was unaware that S.Korea had rockets. Now I will go to them and demand a tribute of their technology! Hopefully I don't need to remind them that my words are backed by nuclear force!

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  4. he the the? by Jeng · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not a grammar nazi, but please. Misspelling the very first word in the summary? I could see if it was some complex word, but its THE, what next, is someone going to misspell A ?

    the the New York Times? It shouldn't be too hard for the mods to do a basic proofread of the summary before posting. Not that correcting the mistakes changes the content, but because correcting the mistakes doesn't change the content.

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    1. Re:he the the? by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, Slashdot editors are uh failure of our educational system.

  5. 300mi South of Seoul? by pete-classic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    WTF? Naro and Seoul are damn near the two widest flung points in the R.o.K. This is a bit like describing NASA's Houston control facility as "1200 miles South West of Washington D.C." It's correct, but not particularly useful.

    -Peter

    1. Re:300mi South of Seoul? by SlashDotDotDot · · Score: 2, Informative

      WTF? Naro and Seoul are damn near the two widest flung points in the R.o.K. This is a bit like describing NASA's Houston control facility as "1200 miles South West of Washington D.C." It's correct, but not particularly useful.

      It was a typo. They meant

      the Naro Space Center, located at http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Naro+Space+Center&ll=34.520136,127.644653&z=9

      but it came out

      the Naro Space Center, 300 miles south of the capital Seoul.

      The /. editors were too lazy to catch it.

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    2. Re:300mi South of Seoul? by jbudofsky · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually I think it is useful. The target audience for this article isn't necessarily familiar with Korean geography. If you were writing an article aimed at Koreans and you said Houston, which is near Hillshire Village, TX most of them would say "Where?" You have to choose recognizable landmarks even if they aren't the absolute closest place. I bet most Americans would have the same reaction.

    3. Re:300mi South of Seoul? by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Hey, honey, have you seen the remote control?"

      "Yeah, it's about 20 feet north of the front door!"

      Yep .... real useful.

    4. Re:300mi South of Seoul? by pete-classic · · Score: 3, Informative

      But someone who isn't familiar with Korean geography gains nothing from this description. They might have well said, "It's in the same country as Seoul." given the relative locations of the two points of interest. In fact that might have been less likely to lead someone to the wrong conclusions, given that calling out Seoul implies that it's the nearest point of interest.

      I might have said, "On the South West coast of South Korea." instead.

      In fact, I just realized that Nagasaki, Japan, which I think is reasonably well known in the US, is closer to the Naro Space Center than Seoul is!

      -Peter

  6. Success?? by benjfowler · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ostensibly a failure for the South Koreans, since some kind of failure of staging caused the satellite to be inserted into the incorrect orbit. And in all likelihood, the perigee ended up being too low, causing the payload to be inserted into the ocean...

    The first stage is basically Russian hardware (Khrunichev), and is basically a flight test of the Angara common booster core with an advanced Russian LOX-kerosene RD-191 engine. Since the failure occurred *AFTER* staging, the failure most likely occurred in South Korean hardware.

    So if I were the South Koreans, I'd be fairly pissed right now. Although this is only a first attempt; anything space-related is bloody hard, and you've got to expect failures on brand new, untested hardware.

    On the other hand, if I were one of the Russian engineers responsible for the first stage, I'd be pretty pleased with the successful Angara flight test.

    (Although I'm not sure if I was the only one who saw the launch video, and saw the first stage pitch suddenly before clearing the tower and then pitch in the opposite direction. Didn't look good...)

    1. Re:Success?? by SleazyRidr · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's a total success. The summary says that the satellite is 22 miles higher than it's supposed to be. They're just being conservative, and allowing some room if it falls a bit.

  7. The most typing-challenged man in the world by Em+Emalb · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't always make a bunch of basic spelling mistakes in my submissions to Slashdot, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis.

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  8. Difference between a rocket and missle test? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What is the difference between a rocket and missile test?

    Depends on whether it is done below or above the 38th Parallel.

    1. Re:Difference between a rocket and missle test? by tin_wood_man · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Satellites are launched with rockets. Missles blow stuff up.

  9. Re:Sometimes they just say th(but maybe it's true) by Informative · · Score: 2, Informative

    South Korea bumbled its way into the Asian space race Tuesday...It seems that the KSLV-1 first stage, developed by the experienced Russians, worked perfectly. However, the rocket's Korean-made second stage, which was supposed to carry and push the satellite into its place, apparently had some issues.

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2009/08/129_50676.html

    In a video session disclosed only to a limited number of reporters Wednesday, the Korea Aerospace Research Institute (KARI), the country's space agency, revealed footage taken from two built-in cameras planted on the KSLV-1 second stage...The second-stage tumbled back to Earth, and the satellite soon followed, as the remaining fairing was heavy enough to prevent the rocket from achieving desired speed and pushing the satellite to a speed faster than 8 kilometers per second that was required for the spacecraft to remain in orbit,'' Park Jeong-joo, who heads KARI's KSLV systems unit, said.

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2009/08/129_50747.html

    Russian officials cited by "Interfax" are claiming the vehicle failed during second stage flight.

    http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/08/south-korea-launch-of-kslv-1/

  10. Re:Why? by Weedhopper · · Score: 2

    Does your payload blow shit up or does it take pictures? You don't think there's a difference between the two? Don't give me shit about military applications of spy satellites. There's a fundamental difference.