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Global Warming To Be Put On Trial?
Mr_Blank writes to mention that the United States' largest business lobby is pushing for a public trial to examine the evidence of global warming and have a judge make a ruling on whether human beings are warming the planet to dangerous effect. "The goal of the chamber, which represents 3 million large and small businesses, is to fend off potential emissions regulations by undercutting the scientific consensus over climate change. If the EPA denies the request, as expected, the chamber plans to take the fight to federal court. The EPA is having none of it, calling a hearing a 'waste of time' and saying that a threatened lawsuit by the chamber would be 'frivolous.' [...] Environmentalists say the chamber's strategy is an attempt to sow political discord by challenging settled science — and note that in the famed 1925 Scopes trial, which pitted lawyers Clarence Darrow and William Jennings Bryan in a courtroom battle over a Tennessee science teacher accused of teaching evolution illegally, the scientists won in the end."
Assuming this is done fairly (insert groan of 'yeah right' - I doubt either side will play fair) and this goes against the 'Global Warming' crowd - I wonder what impact, if any, this would have on Al Gore's Nobel Prize for all the work on 'Global Warming'. I, personally, believe *most* of the 'Global Warming' rhetoric is nonsense and there simply isn't enough data to support Humans are the primary cause of any major changes and that the 'science' fails to take a lot of other things into account. But that's just my opinion, I'm not an expert nor do I claim to be. That does *not* mean I support destroying the environment!
Creationism is ok in the classroom, but not in a science class. It's not science, it's philosophy.
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EU has already committed on co2-cuts, signed the Kyoto treaty etc.
Really? Do they limit CO2 emissions in the EXACT same manner that they limit Asbestos and Chloroform, which is exactly what classifying CO2 under the clean air act would do? Last I checked, BMWs have worse emissions than Toyotas and Hondas.
EU's economy is 30% larger than the U.S.,
They are also 50% larger by population. What's your point?
so maybe you should start to be reasonable and do what every other Western nation does.
They don't do what this law is asking. But don't let FACTS get in your way.
But no, Americans reduce the debate on these idiotic false dichotomies, it's either Stone Age or the American dream. Also, the European Union is not seeing their economies collapins (well, apart from the global depression created by Americans). In fact, EU is a leader in "green tech" thanks to this regulation.
Well, they have a lot of money to devote to it since they don't have to spend ANY money on defense. If the USA took all of its money from defense and put it into Healthcare or "Green Tech," then yes, we'd be able to claim advances in those areas. But we can't, because we're the only Western World with a _real_ military and we use it to protect all of the other countries, and they know it. If America suddenly disassembled its Military, every other country would have to step up and pick up the slack to a have a force to send into every hotspot on the planet and to keep the other guys from attacking.
Your absolutely right. In fact this is going to have the opposite effect that warmers are hoping for. What's going to happen is electricity prices will go through the roof, gas prices will go through the roof, the economy will plummet, and the social backlash will be so violent that they won't know what hit them. Then all the really cool things that get funded like medical and space research will get killed off because we can't afford them anymore.
Yes humans pollute, they aren't going to stop until the last one is killed off.
What we NEED to do in my opinion is drop all this crap about warming the planet. We only need to be concerned about pollution to the point that it makes people unhealthy. Trust me the planet will survive, it's survived a hell of a lot worse than us, and it's been a hell of a lot warmer with much more abundant life at points. The only thing that will kill the planet is that big ball of fire called sol in 5 billion years or so. What we NEED to do is stop spending the public money in these asinine ways, and start actively colonizing other moons or planets. That's really the only insurance policy we would have against asteroids, plagues, nuclear holocausts, etc.
WE HAVE TO GET OFF THIS ROCK. It's a jail, and someday something will happen to cause our extinction here. I love nature as much as the next person, and spend a fair amount of time out in it, but it's a fleeting anomaly.
Why can't people see that is the big picture.