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Astrophysicists Find "Impossible" Planet

SpuriousLogic writes "Scientists have discovered a planet that shouldn't exist. The finding, they say, could alter our understanding of orbital dynamics, a field considered pretty well settled since the time of astronomer Johannes Kepler 400 years ago. The planet is known as a 'hot Jupiter,' a gas giant orbiting the star Wasp-18, about 330 light years from Earth. The planet, Wasp-18b, is so close to the star that it completes a full orbit (its "year") in less than an Earth day, according to the research, which was published in the journal Nature. Of the more than 370 exoplanets — planets orbiting stars other than our sun — discovered so far, this is just the second with such a close orbit. The problem is that a planet that close should be consumed by its parent star in less than a million years, say the authors at Keele University in England. The star Wasp-18 is believed to be about a billion years old, and since stars and the planets around them are thought to form at the same time, Wasp-18b should have been reduced to cinders ages ago."

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  1. Re:Maybe the measurements are wrong or incomplete by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This study does demonstrate that either the measurements are wrong or our understanding of orbital dynamics is wrong. Knowing the former is important because it tells us we have to alter how we make the measurements and knowing the latter is important because it tells us we have to alter our understanding of physics. So it's the very antithesis of hubris.

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    No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
  2. Re:Maybe the measurements are wrong or incomplete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not necessarily. Maybe something knocked it out of its regular orbit and it's spiraling into the star. Maybe we're just witnessing its death.

  3. or by stickrnan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    perhaps it's spiraling to its demise after billions of years in a decaying orbit.

  4. Hot Jupiter by T.E.D. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps instead of a hot Jupiter what they have found is a cold sun?

  5. Re:Maybe the measurements are wrong or incomplete by eln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the problem with science journalism...it tries to jazz up stories to make them more interesting to the layperson, but in the process ends up making scientists look like idiots. I seriously doubt these astrophysicists discovered this planet and immediately ran to the nearest reporter, and breathlessly declared that 400 years of accumulated knowledge in orbital dynamics is wrong because they just discovered an "impossible" planet.

    What probably happened is something more like this:

    An astrophysicist and a journalist sit at a bar after a long day's work looking through telescopes/making shit up.

    Journalist: Anything interesting happen today?
    Astrophysicist: Actually, yes. We discovered a planet orbiting around another star.
    Journalist: Another one? I said interesting, not yet another stupid gas-ball orbiting around another star...that's page H12 at best.
    Astrophysicist: Well, the funny thing is, this star is orbiting closer to its star than it ought to be able to...so it's kind of weird.
    Journalist: (rolling eyes) So what?
    Astrophysicist: The orbit its in should be unstable...it should eventually fall into the star and burn up.
    Journalist: Okay, so we have some planet that might be about to burn up...okay, we're probably page 5C with that one.
    Astrophysicist: Sure, that's probably what will happen. Of course, if the orbit its in is somehow stable, which is impossible, that would mean 400 years of understanding in orbital dynamics is wrong...(chuckles)...but of course that's ridiculous.
    Journalist: 400 years of physics wrong? Impossible planet? I smell a Pulitzer! To the presses!
    Astrophysicist: Hey, wait! Come back! That's not what I said...Oh well, at least I can use his article in my next grant application.

    Aaaaaand...scene!

  6. Re:Maybe the measurements are wrong or incomplete by Ajezz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's almost certain that the journalists never talked to the scientists at all... Nature comes out weekly and there is an embargoed press release that is sent out to media outlets with a short synopsis/blurb of this weeks articles. Science journalists look it over and see whether there is anything particularly cool for the science section this week (i.e. nothing too abstract like particle physics) and then write up something quick for that weeks science section often just based on the press release (they may or may not read the actual article, which are often aimed at specialists and can be a difficult read at times). Longer form articles in the week-end paper usually include actually contacting the guys who did the study, but if there is no direct quote from the actual scientist who wrote the paper in the newspaper story then chances are high there was no scientist-journalist contact at all, and chances are almost as high that the journalist did not read the actual study, just the press release from Nature (after all the study was just published today).